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Old October 25th, 2011, 03:58 AM   #7001
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Is there a certain temperature that decides whether construction works of motorways are called off for a particular day? I know that the winter season there is hardly any work but I was wondering to if there is a certain temperature that has an impact on it or not? Thanks.
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Old October 25th, 2011, 10:22 AM   #7002
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Is there a certain temperature that decides whether construction works of motorways are called off for a particular day? I know that the winter season there is hardly any work but I was wondering to if there is a certain temperature that has an impact on it or not? Thanks.
It depends on what kind of construction works are carried out. All works should stop at about -5/-10 Celsius degree. In the lower temperatures the ground is frozen, unfit to carry out any construction work.
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Old October 25th, 2011, 12:21 PM   #7003
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It depends on what kind of construction works are carried out. All works should stop at about -5/-10 Celsius degree. In the lower temperatures the ground is frozen, unfit to carry out any construction work.
Not all works should stop at -5, you can pour concrete as long as it is special winter mix. In Canada there are concrete jobs going at -15 -20.
Of course it is more expensive and not always make sense.
You can also continue works with metal constructions etc.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 05:17 PM   #7004
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Poland in third place together with Bulgaria in terms of fatalities per million inhabitants in the EU. At first, an honorable place Greece and Romania on the second. Datas for the year 2010.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 06:14 PM   #7005
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Actually, S74 runs between functional city centre and northern districts (flats and indtustrial district on the western side of railway). It's somewhat like S8 in Warsaw.

It's not a bad idea, although it might look like. With all respect for Kielce, it is a medium-sized city. This expressway should serve the city and transit properly for longer than decade.

After that we're gonna be rich enough to build eastern bypass of Kielce along S73, mirroring S7 .
In Kielce we have much traffic to eastern side, unfortunately we've got only one main, wide road to this direction (Sandomierska Street, actually part of National Road 74). In rush hour it's horribly hard to get outside from the city... This ~6 km will help to organise traffic in all eastern part of Kielce, where now it takes sometimes 15-20 mins to pass about 1km.

S73? It's such a nice idea... In this moment, the north side of N. Road 73 which goes to Kielce Północ interchange (with S7) looks like an expressway, but it have two left-turnings.
And EU doesn't want to give us a subsidy to rebuild an southern part of 73 near Kielce.


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Old October 26th, 2011, 06:16 PM   #7006
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Pretty bad. But mark my words, it will improve dramatically as soon as the busy long-distance routes are replaced by motorways. Most countries which score bad at traffic safety lack motorways. You can also see that Spain had one the largest reduction in traffic fatalities at the same time a huge motorway network was developed. It is now the safest country in southern Europe. The next problem for Poland to tackle is driving under influence.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 07:07 PM   #7007
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Increase penalties for violations of traffic rules would improve the statistics of fatal accidents.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 07:21 PM   #7008
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I do agree with above statement. Polish drivers are mostly demoralized as it comes to traffic laws obedience. One of the reason is low level of police monitoring coverage. I'm afraid that Polish drivers will transfer their bad habits into highways and expressways...
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Old October 26th, 2011, 07:21 PM   #7009
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You can also see that Spain had one the largest reduction in traffic fatalities at the same time a huge motorway network was developed. It is now the safest country in southern Europe. T
Something similar is happening in Ireland. After they opened their motorway network it become one of the safest countries in Europe.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 07:35 PM   #7010
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I do agree with above statement. Polish drivers are mostly demoralized as it comes to traffic laws obedience. One of the reason is low level of police monitoring coverage. I'm afraid that Polish drivers will transfer their bad habits into highways and expressways...
Actually Poles behave rather well on motorways, given how little experience they have with them. Compared to what's happening on Italian motorways, we drive in a really calm and safe fashion in my opinion.

As for the penalties for speeding - I would welcome raising them in built up areas. But outside... I'm not so sure, since whenever I see police cars "hunting", it's not in really dangerous spots, but in places where for no apparent reason there is a local speed limit.

I really think we're going to see a tremendous positive change (in terms of road fatalities) in 2013 due to all of the new roads kicking in. But it's going to take us a long, long time to catch up with the west.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 07:37 PM   #7011
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Let's completely ban cars - after that, car accidents would drop do zero. ;]

And as for higher penalties - I wouldn't expect drastic increase in this field. Sadly, speedcameras and other means of speed measuring in Poland are supposed to bring money to the budget. If penalties were very high, there would be fewer fatalities, but also cashflow would stop.

Some speedcameras were already taken down because drivers slowed down and "money box" ceased generating income.

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Actually Poles behave rather well on motorways, given how little experience they have with them. Compared to what's happening on Italian motorways, we drive in a really calm and safe fashion in my opinion.
This summer in Croatia, the only two dangerous situations I had were caused by damned Italian drivers... ;/
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Old October 26th, 2011, 07:46 PM   #7012
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I really think we're going to see a tremendous positive change (in terms of road fatalities) in 2013 due to all of the new roads kicking in. But it's going to take us a long, long time to catch up with the west.
Slovakia managed to do it already. It's now the safest country in central Europe.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 11:23 PM   #7013
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Hello Polish colleagues,

I am driving often from Brno(CZ) to Poznan and I am curious if there are future plans of continuing the highway near Wroclaw (A8) to south of Poland ?

I try to draw a line on the route i'm interested about.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 11:39 PM   #7014
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It's not difficult to imagine the S8 eventually being extended from Wroclaw to (bypass) Ząbkowice Śląskie or Klodzko. Any further would probably require a cooperative arrangement with the Czech Republic to build an R-class road from the R35 at Mohelnice to the border. Without major EU funding, it seems unlikely.

Once the D1/A1 motorway opens up at the CZ/PL border (next summer?), that will be your fastest and safest route between Brno and Wroclaw.
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Old October 27th, 2011, 03:28 PM   #7015
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Also there will be S3 road from Lubawka (PL/CZ border). It have environmental decision (DŚU), but low priority so it's unlikely to be build for next few years. As far as I know Czech side is not hurrying up on they side neither (R11).

A8/S8 extension to the south it's NOT planned at all, so let's leave it to imagination

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Old October 27th, 2011, 03:42 PM   #7016
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It's not difficult to imagine the S8 eventually being extended from Wroclaw to (bypass) Ząbkowice Śląskie or Klodzko. Any further would probably require a cooperative arrangement with the Czech Republic to build an R-class road from the R35 at Mohelnice to the border. Without major EU funding, it seems unlikely.

Once the D1/A1 motorway opens up at the CZ/PL border (next summer?), that will be your fastest and safest route between Brno and Wroclaw.
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Also there will be S3 road from Lubawka (PL/CZ border). It have environmental decision (DŚU), but low priority so it's unlikely to be build for next few years. As far as I know Czech side is not hurrying up on they side neither (R11).

A8/S8 extension to the south it's NOT planned at all, so let's leave it to imagination
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Old October 27th, 2011, 05:13 PM   #7017
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Thank you!
You're welcome. BTW, someday it might be better to take the S11 between Katowice and Poznan than to take the A4 and S5 via Wroclaw, but at least for the next five years it will be best to go via Wroclaw.
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Old October 27th, 2011, 07:47 PM   #7018
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Actually Poles behave rather well on motorways, given how little experience they have with them. Compared to what's happening on Italian motorways, we drive in a really calm and safe fashion in my opinion.

As for the penalties for speeding - I would welcome raising them in built up areas. But outside... I'm not so sure, since whenever I see police cars "hunting", it's not in really dangerous spots, but in places where for no apparent reason there is a local speed limit.

I really think we're going to see a tremendous positive change (in terms of road fatalities) in 2013 due to all of the new roads kicking in. But it's going to take us a long, long time to catch up with the west.
I agree.

There are many morons but usually driving on the Polish Motorway is a breeze, especially compared to here. One of the main reasons is exactly that the speed limit is higher and enforcement is low. In the NL I am constantly on the lookout for dirty speed traps. In PL, I just set CC @ 160 kph and sit back.
Only overtaking lorries are a *****, especially the ones who take ages, aside from lorries, driving on PL motorways is great.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 01:02 AM   #7019
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Old October 28th, 2011, 01:20 AM   #7020
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A lot of lights at this road! It's a model called SGS 306. You can find a lot of that model in the UK too.
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