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Old December 2nd, 2011, 10:51 PM   #7241
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What happened to the S17 in Warsaw? Was environmental approval cancelled? Expired?
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 10:55 PM   #7242
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Just two questions, first about Serock bypass (don't see it on the map), second about the new section of A2 (why it's white, not yellow?).

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Old December 2nd, 2011, 11:42 PM   #7243
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1: Serock Bypass is not marked as expressway. It has 100 km/h speed limit.
2: White colour means the motorway is toll free.
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 12:33 AM   #7244
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What is "ZiZ" on the map legend ? (Przetarg ZiZ, umowa ZiZ)
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 12:50 AM   #7245
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ZiZ is design-build, so the company first designs the stretch themselves, then they build it. The pink color, signed as "umowa ziz" means that that stretch is still in the designing phase. Przetarg means tender, umowa means contract.
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 03:00 AM   #7246
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When I see this map I can see one interesting thing. It can be possible to go from Berlin to Kaliningrad only on motorway or similar. When the A1 from Toruń to Strykˇw is open it is possible to use the A2 from Germany and the take A1 to Gdańsk. Later when the S22 is finished it is possible to take S7 from Gdańsk to Elbląg. And from Elbląg the S22 to Kaliningrad.

Yes I know, this is not logic. It's only something for motorway fans like us. I know that. But it makes Kaliningrad to a part of the European motorway network at last.

And this can even be better. The S5 is going to make this even better. And if they rebuild the DK22 from Elbląg to A1 this could be a quite good way to use if someone want to go from for example Berlin to Kaliningrad in the future.

But I dont know if there is any plans to rebuilding that part of DK22 from A1 to Elbląg to a motorway/Expressway called A22 or S22 there. But i think that can be a good idea.

So maybe in the future it is possible to go from Berlin to Kaliningrad at German A12, Polish A2, A1, S7 and S22. And later maybe at German A12, Polish A2, S5, A1 and S22. This could be a quite good route.
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 03:36 AM   #7247
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They are mentiond both because first the Świecko - Rzepiń stretch was opend and 12h later the wole section.
Oh, it's clear now, thanks.
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 09:37 AM   #7248
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When I see this map I can see one interesting thing. It can be possible to go from Berlin to Kaliningrad only on motorway or similar. When the A1 from Toruń to Strykˇw is open it is possible to use the A2 from Germany and the take A1 to Gdańsk. Later when the S22 is finished it is possible to take S7 from Gdańsk to Elbląg. And from Elbląg the S22 to Kaliningrad.

Yes I know, this is not logic. It's only something for motorway fans like us. I know that. But it makes Kaliningrad to a part of the European motorway network at last.

And this can even be better. The S5 is going to make this even better. And if they rebuild the DK22 from Elbląg to A1 this could be a quite good way to use if someone want to go from for example Berlin to Kaliningrad in the future.

But I dont know if there is any plans to rebuilding that part of DK22 from A1 to Elbląg to a motorway/Expressway called A22 or S22 there. But i think that can be a good idea.

So maybe in the future it is possible to go from Berlin to Kaliningrad at German A12, Polish A2, A1, S7 and S22. And later maybe at German A12, Polish A2, S5, A1 and S22. This could be a quite good route.
The main idea of highways and expressways network in Poland is to connect main Polish cities, thus S22 is not even planned.
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 10:40 AM   #7249
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What happened to the S17 in Warsaw? Was environmental approval cancelled? Expired?
As far as I remember, there has been a problem with S17 because ... they found a rare kind of fish (or frog?) there a couple of months ago
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 10:44 AM   #7250
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The main idea of highways and expressways network in Poland is to connect main Polish cities, thus S22 is not even planned.
But we have plans about DK22 2x2 GP Class like Malbork bypass
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 10:57 AM   #7251
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Fine. There's no too many good roads in Poland
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 11:23 AM   #7252
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can you translate the map? for me who doesn't speak polish it's a little bit hard to understand it. thanks in advance
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 11:39 AM   #7253
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Green - Constructed
Red -Under construction
Pink - Singed, in project.
Yellow -Tender
Blue - Environmental decision
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 12:41 PM   #7254
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can you translate the map? for me who doesn't speak polish it's a little bit hard to understand it. thanks in advance
You have translation here: http://sites.google.com/site/sscplas/. I am updating this website every quarter. You may see quaterly progress and yearly progress of A and S roads construction in Poland.
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 02:23 PM   #7255
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...2: White colour means the motorway is toll free.
Thanx, but I see PPO near Rzepin?
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 02:38 PM   #7256
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The new stretch of A2 is going to be toll free until 31.05.2012. Special offer to attract more drivers
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 05:39 PM   #7257
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As far as I remember, there has been a problem with S17 because ... they found a rare kind of fish (or frog?) there a couple of months ago
So ... what happens next? Will they try to find a new route? Will they change the design of the road to reduce the impact on the fish or frogs?
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 06:02 PM   #7258
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One more question about A2. I don't understand the map (little bit too much dates on it) when stretch Strykˇw-Konotopa (A2) will be opened?
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 06:11 PM   #7259
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Here you have an alternative map with deadlines of particular sections. http://ssc-mapa.googlecode.com/svn/t...ka-igorsel.png

According to it three sections are planned to be completed on June 2012, two others on October 2012..
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 06:13 PM   #7260
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One more question about A2. I don't understand the map (little bit too much dates on it) when stretch Strykˇw-Konotopa (A2) will be opened?
It has been divided into five (5) separate sections which are simultaneously being built. It is expected that the A2 will be completed, and will reach Konotopa (Warsaw) in June 2012.
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