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Old February 3rd, 2012, 08:49 PM   #7621
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Fiat 126p I was traveling with my family across Poland and even twice to East Berlin on motorway Wroclaw - Berlin via Cottubus. Max speed approx. 105-110 km/h 4 adult people inside Fuel consumption the same as my car driving 200 km/h :P
I could take some pictures wish that time digital cameras wasn't so popular as now...
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 09:02 PM   #7622
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I remember in the past, when it was sometimes came Fiat 126p from Poland to Sweden. It was a lot of luggage on the roof on that cars. I don't know why, but it was something romantic with that cars with all of that luggage on the roof.

I go to Poland sometimes and it is totally different now.
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Old February 4th, 2012, 01:31 PM   #7623
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The Dutch are the tallest people in the world, I don't think I could fit in a car like that. I've driven the Toyota Starlet of my ex-girlfriend and my legs were stuck between the accelerator and the stick or the steering wheel.
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Old February 7th, 2012, 06:20 PM   #7624
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Old February 7th, 2012, 07:49 PM   #7625
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This is interchange of S3 and ??????????
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Old February 7th, 2012, 08:53 PM   #7626
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Only one month (or possibly two as it may not open until April now because of the harsh winter weather in Poland) to go until the opening of the A1 to the Czech border . I hope that the Czechs are working as fast to link the A1 motorway on the Polish side to the D1 motorway on the Czech side of the border
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Old February 7th, 2012, 10:43 PM   #7627
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This is interchange of S3 and ??????????
This is WS15 (motorway viaduct) on interchange Świebodzin północ. It's interchange with National Road 3.
This interchange connects NR3 and NR92 with interchange Jordanowo on A2.
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Old February 8th, 2012, 12:03 AM   #7628
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Only one month (or possibly two as it may not open until April now because of the harsh winter weather in Poland) to go until the opening of the A1 to the Czech border . I hope that the Czechs are working as fast to link the A1 motorway on the Polish side to the D1 motorway on the Czech side of the border
The last section of the D1 to the polish border is practically finished since autumn as far as i heard, we are waiting to our polish co-workers
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Old February 8th, 2012, 01:39 PM   #7629
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Old February 8th, 2012, 01:42 PM   #7630
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Old February 9th, 2012, 06:35 PM   #7631
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Old February 13th, 2012, 11:32 AM   #7632
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S35

I often travell by the DW 3396D. It joins Swidnica and DK5. You can go from Swidnica to north by 3396D and then using DK5 you can join A4 and go to Wroclaw. DW 3396D is very good new concrete road , 2 lines , but bridges and junctions are 4 lines , you can see that the road is prepared for extension for 4 lines, curves are mild like expressway, no villages on the way , no inhabited area
I wonder if GDDKiA could take over DW3396D , add 2 lines , extend 10 kilometers of DK5 for 4 lines , add 2 more lines on new Swidnica bypass ,
built new / extend DK35 to Walbrzych for 4 lines

Then we could have S35 connecting quite big Walbrzych aglomeration
(Walbrzych/Swidnica/Swiebodzice and other small towns)
Maybe it`s good option in case S3 will not be built
Walbrzych region needs good road much more then Jawor , Bolkow , where S3 to the border is planned
Farther extension of S35 to Czech border to Kamienna Gora could be problem
but this could be very good for Warsaw - Wroclaw - Prague road , looks even better solution then S3
becasue S3 can only serve Legnica , Szczecin, but not the whole country like S35 via Wroclaw

S3 south from Legnica doesn`t pass big/medium towns , S3 can`t serve big part of Poland (Warsaw, Poznan, Wroclaw , Lodz)
S35 can serve Walbrzych aglomeration and could even server to connect the whole country with Prague/Czech




What you all think about it ?

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Old February 13th, 2012, 01:32 PM   #7633
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You have a point, somehow. It's on the shortest route between Wrocław and Lubawka and if there is a possibility to extend it thru Wałbrzych (along DW367) to Lubawka, it would be a good solution for both transit and regional traffic. The question is, if this route is environmentally and economically feasible...
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Old February 13th, 2012, 02:58 PM   #7634
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It sounds not bad. But, practically, such construction between Wałbrzych and Lubawka would be expensive as hell because of difficult, mountain terrain there.
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Old February 13th, 2012, 05:32 PM   #7635
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It sounds not bad. But, practically, such construction between Wałbrzych and Lubawka would be expensive as hell because of difficult, mountain terrain there.
I agree with you , I know this but I raised discussion becasue it seems to be interesting variant to talk.

From the other point of view , S3 construction through Bolkow and Kamienna Gora will be expensive as well - there are alrerady 2 tunnels planned according to valid DSU document.
As I say S35 would be cool almost for everybody going to Czech , Austria and so on - from Bialystok Olsztyn Warszawa Gdansk Poznan Katowice Wroclaw , Lodz
S3 through Bolkow is only better variant for Zielona Gora and Szczecin
and as I say we would connect quite big towns like Walbrzych (~120 000 people ), Swidnica~(~60 000) , Jelenia Gora would prefer
this road as well then S3 becasue connection to Wroclaw is more important for Jelenia Gora then connection to Legnica.
This is the most populated and industrial region in Poland south from A4 apart from Upper Silesia where they have A1 (Rybnik, Jastzrebie , Wodzislaw) , even Bielsko that is south from A4 has 4 lines DK1
I was always wondering why they don`t take it in consideration. Actually I see many new factories in this region - Electrolux , Toyota , Colgate , Faurecia and many many others , there is big industry growing there that`s why already they built DW3396D

As well distances I`m talking about are very short
DW3396D that I mean to extend 13 km
DK5 from DW3396D to A4 that need to be extend ~10 km
Swidnica - Walbrzych ?? ~15 km
Even if they would build this road to Walbrzych only, many people going to Czech would use it

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Old February 13th, 2012, 06:36 PM   #7636
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You have a point, somehow. It's on the shortest route between Wrocław and Lubawka and if there is a possibility to extend it thru Wałbrzych (along DW367) to Lubawka, it would be a good solution for both transit and regional traffic. The question is, if this route is environmentally and economically feasible...
GDDKiA took over DK35 within Wałbrzych's borders. City officials said that the costs of a new, western bypass are too high to afford so it's now on shoulders of GDDKiA to finance and to build it.

It shouldn't take that much longer to be honest. Big projects around Wrocław are pretty much finished. Time to focus now on other places in Lower Silesia.
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Old February 14th, 2012, 10:39 AM   #7637
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You have a point, somehow. It's on the shortest route between Wrocław and Lubawka and if there is a possibility to extend it thru Wałbrzych (along DW367) to Lubawka, it would be a good solution for both transit and regional traffic. The question is, if this route is environmentally and economically feasible...
Is it from the Czech point of view a good solution ?
I heard that people in Nachod complain a lot for heavy truck traffic,
but it looks that Czech RSD is currently not working for alternative solution
through Kralovec (same like GDDKiA)
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Old February 14th, 2012, 12:10 PM   #7638
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RSD has this project in its plans and the R11/S3 connection is also included in the new TEN-T policy as core network - so it has to be finished until 2030. It is expected to be built as 2+1 expressway in half profile of future 2+2 motorway.
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Old February 14th, 2012, 12:16 PM   #7639
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That sounds ambitious....
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Old February 14th, 2012, 12:27 PM   #7640
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... yeah, "ambitious" We just need one electoral term lead by strong social-democratic party and you'll see how fast we can spend money %)

Anyway, the polish S3 is now on hold or is it really going to be built until 2020?
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