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Old March 12th, 2012, 12:58 PM   #7701
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Is there already an opening date for A4/S19 around Rzeszów? The famous map says III/2012. That's now.
According to latest information, it's supposed to be ready by the end of May, but it's still in danger of being even more late.

I guess this is a problem on most contracts, we are learning on our mistakes, it is simply not possible to build motorways this quickly (at least without overpaying and without the quality suffering).
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Old March 12th, 2012, 03:32 PM   #7702
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W tym wątku cały czas jest mowa o odcinku do Sulechowa, a ja chciałbym Was przenieść na odcinek do Międzyrzecza.
Niestety w trakcie jedynego dnia w najbliższym czasie (wczoraj), którego mogłem przybyć na budowę trafiła się pogoda pod psem. Dzień wcześniej słoneczko, tak samo dzisiaj.
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Old March 12th, 2012, 07:42 PM   #7703
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Why don't they construct the embankment already? It takes quite a bit of time for the embankment to consolidate. In the Netherlands it can take up to 18 months to prevent subsidence in later years. The soil is not as soft in Poland as it is in the Netherlands, but 2 - 3 months seem very little to me if this motorway will open in late May.
You can clearly see that the breast wall hasn't been erected yet. There is no way that the earthworks can be continued until that has been done.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 10:49 PM   #7704
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The first L'viv sign on A4:

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Old March 14th, 2012, 05:38 PM   #7705
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Why not Lwów?
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Old March 14th, 2012, 05:46 PM   #7706
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Why not Lwów?
Because drivers who don't read Polish also need to know.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 05:47 PM   #7707
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Should be "Lwów/L'viv" or something similar, but Polish law doesn't provide it...
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Old March 14th, 2012, 06:10 PM   #7708
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This is exactly how it should be done. Good job, Poland
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Old March 14th, 2012, 06:21 PM   #7709
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At least Lviv is signed from as far as from Rzeszów since it is the last large town before the Ukranian border. Łancut, Jarosław and Radymno which also all lie close to the A4 are much smaller places
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Old March 14th, 2012, 06:24 PM   #7710
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Should be "Lwów/L'viv" or something similar, but Polish law doesn't provide it...


Ostrava, not Ostrawa. It's good for me.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 06:27 PM   #7711
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Old March 14th, 2012, 07:40 PM   #7712
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Because drivers who don't read Polish also need to know.

But germans has Breslau.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 08:43 PM   #7713
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At Polish forum (in German thread) we just determined that information at signs should be helpful for local drivers at first sequence. Such situation exists in Germany. There's some idea, but not really good. In fact, Breslau (Wrocław) is the same German as Lwów (L'viv) is Polish...
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- Erich dostoł! - i do dziś nie wiesz, czy to krzyczał grenszuc, czy powstaniec.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 09:54 PM   #7714
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...this discussion is pointlessly repeated all over again...
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Old March 15th, 2012, 10:19 AM   #7715
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Will be a highway for Euro2012. The whole ... 19.8 km

Added: March 15, 2012, 7:00 Author: Bartosz Gubernat

The planned completion date of the course and the various stages of the motorway between Krakow and Korczowa.
223 km from the A4 motorway between Krakow and Korczowa, before the Euro 2012 final will be less than 20 km. Construction of the remaining runs until 2013.

The latest report of the General Directorate for National Roads and Motorways that the complete route on the section A4 Krakow - Rzeszow is unrealistic, not only for the June tournament, but even to the end of the year. Contractors constantly asking for extension of deadlines for the works and in many sections is not yet even under the road embankment.

According to the official position of GDDKiA, with 10 sections of the motorway between Krakow and Rzeszow to June, ready to be only one - connecting the Lesser Wierzchosławice of Tarnow. Road constructors do not exclude that manage to finish two more, and the shortest in the region of Rzeszów. The closest final of the works between the central node and the east, where he lacks only the last layer of asphalt.

- You have to arrange it for almost seven kilometers away. Contractor requested a further extension of the work, which according to the contract ended in December - says Joanna Rarus of Rzeszów branch GDDKiA.

Not agreed to this, and for each day of delay accruing nearly 90 thousand. zł penalty. Therefore we hope that will accelerate the work and by May the road will be ready - he adds.



The same deadline roadmen assume for the section between nodes rzeszowskimi west - central. His contractor should have completed construction in February, so also pay penalties for delays.

- But here on the completion of the highway before the Euro 2012 has no chance. This lack of asphalt, but also part of the embankment and foundation under the roadway. I watched the construction site a few days ago. To my eye the real deadline is August - Nowiny evaluate the building for an experienced engineer.

When I finished the remaining portions will podkarpacko-Małopolska road? It depends, among others the weather.

- Because this is the work of poor weather conditions are most common. That was such in the rain in June and July last year. But this is not the only problems. Contractors must also get down to hard work, because to date with the mobilization of the squares at times very differently - adds Joanna Rarus.

The headquarters in Warsaw GDDKiA but not tear hair from the head.

- The work did not go as we expected, contractors are up, but most importantly, that the roads will arise. And this should be happy - says Artur Mrugasiewicz from the Press GDDKiA.

Date of opening the entire section of the motorway, however, give no one wants.

- In theory, most of the episodes should be ready by the end of the year. Longer pulled only works between Brzesko and Wierzchosławicami, where the previous contractor had wasted eight months and had to sign a contract with the new company. For now nearing completion of the whole section Krakow - Korczowa is therefore 2013. Month? Hard to say - Mrugasiewicz added.

Meanwhile, according to the declaration made in 2008 by Cezary Grabarczyk, then head of the Ministry of Infrastructure, our path like the other 800 km of new highways and 1,700 km of expressways were to be ready before the Euro 2012.

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Old March 15th, 2012, 10:50 AM   #7716
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It's like they suddenly found out there are only 12 weeks between the winter break and the start of the summer.

Well, better safe and good than sorry and fast. Motorways are supposed to last a lifetime, not just during Euro 2012.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 11:38 AM   #7717
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www.polishroadsoapopera.com/gddkia

Geez, the word of the year at the GDDKiA website is certainly "cracks". 4 out 5 of their press releases is about cracks.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 01:53 PM   #7718
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Well, better safe and good than sorry and fast. Motorways are supposed to last a lifetime, not just during Euro 2012.
It`s true I can`t understand someone who think, that Euro 2012 is deadline for all the investments
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Old March 16th, 2012, 02:34 AM   #7719
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Why "Lwów"? This place isn't called that anymore.
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Old March 16th, 2012, 03:30 AM   #7720
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So why the Germans write "Breslau" ? Such city doesn't exist since 1945 ...
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