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Old April 9th, 2012, 12:11 PM   #7841
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One of the companies responsible for completing the C section, DSS, have just filed for bankruptcy (link).

That seems to be the fault of legal regulations on public tenders in Poland, whereby the focus is put on the lowest bid price, without taking into account the reputation (experience) of the bidder.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 12:39 PM   #7842
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Even without Section C, opening the other sections will be an improvement over the status quo.

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Old April 9th, 2012, 02:17 PM   #7843
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One of the companies responsible for completing the C section, DSS, have just filed for bankruptcy (link).
B&K has taken over all responsibilities of DSS (in regard to A2 construction) weeks ago, so this bankruptcy doesn't affect this contract. I think summer opening of A2's section C is very much possible.
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That seems to be the fault of legal regulations on public tenders in Poland, whereby the focus is put on the lowest bid price, without taking into account the reputation (experience) of the bidder.
DSS was not awarded this contract as a result of public tender.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 07:50 PM   #7844
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B&K has taken over all responsibilities of DSS (in regard to A2 construction) weeks ago, so this bankruptcy doesn't affect this contract. I think summer opening of A2's section C is very much possible.
You're right, Boegl a Krysl took it over mid March '12.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 09:49 PM   #7845
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why was it never really a priority to connect Warszawa to the european motorway network? I mean its more or less understandable with Bucharest, since you go to Bucharest when you really want to go there. No real transit there. But Polands capitol is on a -when not on THE- major route to Russia.

I hope that A2 will be ready soon, even if a big and important city like Warszawa should have at least 5 motorways connecting it to everywhere.
Sorry but you are quite wrong about Buhcarest. But this is not the appropriate thread anyway...
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Old April 10th, 2012, 02:08 AM   #7846
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But he is right about Warsaw (sorry to admit though ).
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Old April 10th, 2012, 12:23 PM   #7847
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A2 Świecko - Nowy Tomyśl, view from viaduct WD3 on voivodeship road 134, direction east.

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Old April 10th, 2012, 01:44 PM   #7848
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Hey!

This year I'm planning a trip to Poland and Germany. Take a look at the map (~my route):

[IMG]http://i43.************/4js0o4.jpg[/IMG]

Can you make any comments about it? Are there any particular roads that are MUST SEE ones (as far as I know, road A2 should be interesting one)? I'm interested in anything that might be different from most of the ordinary roads - 2+1 roads, various intersections etc. Whatever...
I can change my route a bit to choose different roads instead of these.

By the way, I'm not sure about my way home. If I go by ferry, there are no questions but if I choose the car, you can recommend me the most interesting way to get to the E67
Thanks in advance.
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Old April 10th, 2012, 04:00 PM   #7849
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A1 Kowal - Stryków

Is this section of A1 still planned for an April 2012 opening?

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Old April 10th, 2012, 04:25 PM   #7850
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It`s unreal to open this section in this month.
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Old April 10th, 2012, 09:13 PM   #7851
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This section was changed to septemper 2012.
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Old April 12th, 2012, 03:44 PM   #7852
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A drive called "Exciting boredom".
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Old April 12th, 2012, 06:23 PM   #7853
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What exactly happened on A1 in southern Poland? I've read something about a bridge that's in danger of collapsing and works were stopped, but Google Translate sucks. Are there more details?
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Old April 12th, 2012, 06:34 PM   #7854
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MA-532 in Mszana again, the bridge that Alpine Bau said was impossible to build, they were kicked out of the contract in 2009, they won the tender again (despite claiming the bridge is unsafe and impossible to build!). Here is that bridge, photos by RadosławJ:




The inspectors have shut down the construction site to verify the claims that the bridge is unsafe. Some parts of the construction have been damaged, as you can see here for example:



We should have construction inspectors' report in about a month, let's hope works can be resumed. If not - that's really bad news.
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Old April 12th, 2012, 06:40 PM   #7855
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All is about 'famous' MA522 in Mszana on A1 Swierklany - Gorzycki
http://www.gddkia.gov.pl/pl/a/10747/...trzymaniu-prac

http://www.alpine.pl/autostrada-a1-s...we/ekspertyzy/
there is some PDF in German (Prof. Alfred Pauser) or FR (Prof. Alfred Pauser), if it helps
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Old April 12th, 2012, 06:42 PM   #7856
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What exactly happened on A1 in southern Poland? I've read something about a bridge that's in danger of collapsing and works were stopped, but Google Translate sucks. Are there more details?
I think at the moment all construction works stopped and there is an investigation in progress. There should be conclusions in latest 30 days whether is any chance to fix existing project or build that bridge from scratch again.
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Old April 12th, 2012, 06:43 PM   #7857
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GDDKiA claims the bridge is safe.

We're going to find out who's right if they do that tonnage weight test with maximum loaded trucks on it.
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Old April 12th, 2012, 07:39 PM   #7858
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It looks as if no motorway or expressway in Poland is going to be opened by the promised deadline which comes and goes because the opening date is put back because of bad luck and numerous unforeseen problems .
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Old April 12th, 2012, 09:38 PM   #7859
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It looks as if no motorway or expressway in Poland is going to be opened by the promised deadline which comes and goes because the opening date is put back because of bad luck and numerous unforeseen problems .
Opening dates were way too optimistic, you cant build a quality highway in less than a year or year and a half. New dates are more realistic.

Sure everyone wanted them to be finished before Euro 2012 but I would personally wait few more months to make sure that everything is correct. After all highways/expressways are not built for one single event but to facilitate country's traffic for decades.

Most fans will not be driving anyway.
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Old April 12th, 2012, 09:47 PM   #7860
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Also, people usually think that opening date is the day the contract finishes. Many road contracts in Poland are finished in time, but obviously they have to be approved for traffic by many different authorities. It usually takes 1-2 months after the road is ready for it to be opened. It's something journalists in Poland can't seem to understand, because every single time the headlines are the same - "another road delayed" - even if it's not delayed at all.
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