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Old May 18th, 2012, 12:39 PM   #8061
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Oh, wow, then it's not as bad as I thought.
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Old May 18th, 2012, 07:31 PM   #8062
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My friend drives a truck to the International in Europe, often to Italy and has more than 5,000 zł per month
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Old May 18th, 2012, 11:02 PM   #8063
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There is some fuzz about the Pabianice bypass opening this night. It will only be the first stage to Szynkielew.

Is it correct that this first stage is mainly DK14 and not S14? It appears to me that S14 should be extended north from the point indicated on this map:
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Old May 18th, 2012, 11:36 PM   #8064
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Road to the left from this arrow is DK14, the rest S14, and yes, it will be extended just like you have shown. Most likely in 5 years time.
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Old May 19th, 2012, 11:12 AM   #8065
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Is it still planned to commence toll operations on A4 Bielany Wrocławskie – Gliwice Sośnica by June 1st? I can't find anything about it on the GDDKiA website. As far as I know the toll road will not be under concession but a part of GDDKiA.
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Old May 19th, 2012, 11:59 AM   #8066
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Yes, A4 Wrocław-Gliwice will commence toll operations by June 1st. The toll rates in this section are determined by the Minister of Transport :
0,10PLN/km for cars,
0,05PLN/km for motocykles
All section Wrocław-Gliwice will cost 16,40 PLN.
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Old May 19th, 2012, 03:55 PM   #8067
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Plus Gliwice bypass will be toll-free.
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Old May 19th, 2012, 04:26 PM   #8068
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I can't find anything about it on the GDDKiA website.
http://www.viatoll.pl/en/pojazdy-lek...-manualny/news
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Old May 19th, 2012, 07:20 PM   #8069
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What is the monthly salary for a Polish trucker? About 4000 - 4500 PLN?
It depends on your work time. 5 days per week, 8 hours every day it's ~2500zł-3000zł. Drivers who drive to Spain, earning up to 6000 zł.
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Old May 19th, 2012, 09:38 PM   #8070
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S14 should be around 2 kilometers officially:



I'm hoping for someone to make a video and/or photos.
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Old May 20th, 2012, 02:56 AM   #8071
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0,4 km so far. Starting from future Łódź-Lublinek junction down to first overpass and temporary exit in Szynkielew.


http://a.tile.openstreetmap.org/14/9072/5434.png
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Old May 20th, 2012, 10:28 AM   #8072
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Hmm, what's the point of opening it then, if you can't even reach the first interchange?

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Old May 20th, 2012, 10:51 AM   #8073
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Hmm, what's the point of opening it then, if can't even reach the first interchange?
I suspect one reason for opening that stretch may have been to get the 85% reimbursement from the EU.
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Old May 20th, 2012, 11:16 AM   #8074
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DK14bis > is this number signed?



Is this the future S14/DK14 interchange Łódź-Południe or at Port Łódź?
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Old May 20th, 2012, 01:56 PM   #8075
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According to this signpost should be A14.
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Old May 20th, 2012, 02:17 PM   #8076
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That was my first thought on seeing this sign - why is it blue
(the colour for motorway signs) when it is an expressway and should be the standard green colour for expressways and national DK roads? It is S14 not A14 (unless there is some plan to upgrade the S14 to A14 some time in the future which we do not know about)

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Old May 20th, 2012, 08:39 PM   #8077
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Expected transit times

Hi to all and greetings from the UK!

I wonder whether you can help with a journey that 2 friends of mine will make in a few weeks. I hope this isn't too much off topic!

They aim to travel from near Frankfurt an der Oder (just inside the Polish border) to the Lithuanian border on Tuesday 5 June, and then nearly 3 weeks later, from Lithuania to Radom on Monday 25 June.

My thoughts are that their plans are ambitious (I've heard that the queues through Augustow can be long, for example), but they're convinced that the travel times are realistic. What do you all think? I'm guessing that Euro 2012 won't affect things too much on either date but again I'm happy to be proved wrong...

Many thanks!

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Old May 20th, 2012, 08:49 PM   #8078
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That was my first thought on seeing this sign - why is it blue
Because someone has made a mistake.

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DK14bis > is this number signed?

Is this the future S14/DK14 interchange Łódź-Południe or at Port Łódź?
This is Łódź Południe.

Here in 3:11 you can see DK14 sign:



The 'bis' suffix is not needed as the old road will became local one. I don't know why anyone has come up with this DK14bis thing in the first place.

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Old May 20th, 2012, 09:41 PM   #8079
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Does anyone know why the northern part of DK8 Piotrków Trybunalski - Warszawa is currently not converted to an expressway. Is it just because it's in another województwo? If I understand correctly, Mszczonów - Wolica will be an adaption of the existing road, but Wolica - S2 will be a new alignment west of the DK8 (bypassing Raszyn).
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Hi to all and greetings from the UK!

I wonder whether you can help with a journey that 2 friends of mine will make in a few weeks. I hope this isn't too much off topic!

They aim to travel from near Frankfurt an der Oder (just inside the Polish border) to the Lithuanian border on Tuesday 5 June, and then nearly 3 weeks later, from Lithuania to Radom on Monday 25 June.

My thoughts are that their plans are ambitious (I've heard that the queues through Augustow can be long, for example), but they're convinced that the travel times are realistic. What do you all think? I'm guessing that Euro 2012 won't affect things too much on either date but again I'm happy to be proved wrong...

Many thanks!
The part I would worry about is the A2 between Lodz and Warsaw. If they can deal with that detour and get through Warsaw at off-peak traffic times, they should be ok.
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