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Old May 26th, 2012, 12:12 AM   #8181
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It's going to be a 2x(2+3) layout. Each direction will consist of 2x3,5m lanes for transit (marked as an expressway, on the inside of the bridge) and 3x3,0m lanes for local traffic (on the outside).
Thanks! Will lorries be required to use the local lanes?
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Old May 26th, 2012, 12:52 AM   #8182
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I'm not sure, but I don't think so - what would be the point of that? Lorries are generally not allowed to enter Warsaw (they have to use DK50/62 to go around), so it's not a big problem anyway.
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Old May 26th, 2012, 12:59 PM   #8183
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A4 - east part - woj. Podkarpackie

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Old May 26th, 2012, 04:00 PM   #8184
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Gazeta has an article about the signage and the name of Konotopa:
http://warszawa.gazeta.pl/warszawa/1...Konotopa_.html
Especially for you they also made some close-ups of the signage.
http://warszawa.gazeta.pl/warszawa/5...86566.html?i=0
Those tiny "1500m" marks...

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Unfortunately there is no way to reason with people responsible for this. So for now Konotopa remains Konotopa, the name Warszawa-Zachód (which seems like an OBVIOUS choice for this interchange) was assigned to the "Mory" interchange on S8 (with old DK2).
It's the other way round. It's OBVIOUS that the exit to most of western Warsaw should be called Warszawa-Zachód. Konotopa is just an interchange without exit. It's just a point on the map. Germans learned long ago that in the case of such interchanges - the name should be as meaningless as possible. They have Dreieck Schwanebeck, not Berlin-Nord, and Dreieck Nuthetal, not Berlin-Sudost. Granted, they also have Kreuz Hamburg-Ost, and exits in Hamburg are named after city parts. But Warsaw will have far less expressway exits, and some of them deserve a "large" name like Warszawa-Zachód.

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lanes for transit
For through traffic... Americans use the word "transit" for "public transport"... I think.
So to Americans - no, these are not bus lanes.
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Old May 26th, 2012, 04:01 PM   #8185
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Whole A2 Łódź - Warszawa!
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Tommorow at midnight opening of section D to Grodzisk Mazowiecki (17 km)
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Old May 26th, 2012, 05:14 PM   #8186
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Old May 26th, 2012, 06:51 PM   #8187
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Grot-Rowecki Bridge in Warsaw

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The existing steel frame is going to be used, but everything else will be stripped and rebuilt. They plan to do this in 5 phases and finish by the end of 2014:


GDDKiA was very generous with this project and released whole documentation on their FTP
Please note that pipes which are now inside the bridge structure will be tekan outside, between two road bridges. Current situation is quite unsafe. In case of any leakage from pipes, even if only part of inner structure of the bridge would be filled with water - entire bridge may collapse.

This is another good reason to take care for this one of the most important bridges in Warsaw.
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Old May 27th, 2012, 02:59 AM   #8188
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My guesses
section a:25/06 ready + open
section b 28/05 ready 25/06 open {applied for permission to use}
section c 25/06 ready + open {11m wide paver equipment laid 1,000m sma layer on 24/05}{note: on 1 "side" only I assume}
section d 28/05 ready + open {expected 00:00 28/05}
section e 21/05 ready + open {actual 23/05 confirmed}

Euro 2012 matches starting 08/06 and ending 01/07... lets see what happens

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Old May 27th, 2012, 03:14 AM   #8189
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Interesting:

On the A2 construction site there is now a marvellous piece of German engineering at work.

The VÖGELE SUPER 2100-2 paver from Joseph Vögele´s highly succesful Super Series of road pavers!

This machine was brought in a mad rush all the way from Germany to the construction area some days ago. It is operated by a German crew which uses interpreters to communicate with the Poles.







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Old May 27th, 2012, 08:24 AM   #8190
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It is operated by a German crew which uses interpreters to communicate with the Poles.
I'm slightly surprised that not enough of the people involved are able to speak enough English to communicate without interpreters. I guess that in another five or ten years, the interpreters would be unnecessary.
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Old May 27th, 2012, 08:51 AM   #8191
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Interesting:

On the A2 construction site there is now a marvellous piece of German engineering at work.

The VÖGELE SUPER 2100-2 paver from Joseph Vögele´s highly succesful Super Series of road pavers!

This machine was brought in a mad rush all the way from Germany to the construction area some days ago. It is operated by a German crew which uses interpreters to communicate with the Poles.



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owned by Serbian company PLANUM. Picture taken in Morocco. Nowdays this machines are in Serbia. (highway e75)
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Old May 27th, 2012, 12:33 PM   #8192
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http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...12037&page=732

Paving of the A2 appears to be a military-style operation with all the personnel, machines, vehicles and logistics involved. Can they provide enough asphalt to keep up with the pace? I assume the asphalt plant makes overtime.
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Old May 27th, 2012, 12:39 PM   #8193
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They are two asphalt plants working currently for A-2's C stretch: one in Wiskitki, which belongs to BaK, and second which belongs to Strabag, and which worked for A-2's D stretch.
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Old May 27th, 2012, 12:58 PM   #8194
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If we know the production capacity of these two asphalt plants, the depth of the asphalt, and the width of the paving, then it's easy to estimate the maximum rate of progress. I'm sure we know the width of the paving and probably the depth too. It might be more difficult to learn the production capacity of the plants.
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Old May 27th, 2012, 01:22 PM   #8195
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I am not sure if I understood everything in the Polish part of the forum. Are there some sections temporarily marked on the underlying asphalt layer? Will they open it for the Euro and close it later in the summer and finish it? or did I get it totally wrong. e.g. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...ostcount=14790
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Old May 27th, 2012, 02:10 PM   #8196
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I am not sure if I understood everything in the Polish part of the forum. Are there some sections temporarily marked on the underlying asphalt layer? Will they open it for the Euro and close it later in the summer and finish it? or did I get it totally wrong. e.g. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...ostcount=14790
That's about right - contract for A section says that there won't have to be SMA on it for Euro, so there will be only about 30% of last layer on this strech. The rest in July.

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Old May 27th, 2012, 03:05 PM   #8197
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On the A2 construction site there is now a marvellous piece of German engineering at work.
It can put 1km of surface per few hours With this piece of ze German Wunderwaffe would the section C be at least driveable?
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Old May 27th, 2012, 03:27 PM   #8198
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It can pour 1100 tons of asphalt per hour. That's 55 trucks per hour!

It's not unique though (the wide asphalting). I've seen pictures of the western part of A2 where concrete was poured 11 meters wide as well.
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Old May 27th, 2012, 04:26 PM   #8199
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Here You have map of layers on stretch D by Agusia

Summary on saturday:

black - binding layer
green - SMA
blue dots - ending points by each day

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Podsumowując sobotni spacer Berty. 418+000+3 ciężarówki


Czyli jutro tzn. już dzisiaj Berta zwiedzi Wiskitki.
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It can pour 1100 tons of asphalt per hour. That's 55 trucks per hour!

It's not unique though (the wide asphalting). I've seen pictures of the western part of A2 where concrete was poured 11 meters wide as well.
I think it's normal thing in concrete technology on A and S roads contrary to asphalt where you can use two pavers on the last layer, also this kind of paver was on S3 Szczecin Gorzów on Budimex stretch.

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Old May 27th, 2012, 04:28 PM   #8200
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As for plants in Wiskitki, somewhere in Polish thread can be found info that max output of each is 300 tons/hour.
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