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Old May 31st, 2012, 11:04 PM   #8261
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the A1 extended north to Częstochowa next year
Well, sorry to disappoint but that's not going to happen at least until 2015.
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Old May 31st, 2012, 11:16 PM   #8262
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It turns into a Poltaly. At least they use the same term for a motorway...
Even being a G8 member you simply can't buy common sense...
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Old May 31st, 2012, 11:27 PM   #8263
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FPW needs a strong crusade against GDDKiA's lack of professionalism in regards to proper highway signage. Stop using Lattix sign posts, increase sizes of highway and expressway signs and make them even, use proper directional arrows for all lanes, clearly mark exists and entries with names or numbers. Oh and it wouldn't hurt them to also illuminate signs, they can use solar panels.
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Old May 31st, 2012, 11:36 PM   #8264
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There were attempts to show Drogowskaz Classic (comprehensive new system, documentation here) to them. People in GDDKiA seem to like it as much as anyone, but are not willing to implement it because it would mean changing so much of the existing regulations that it'd be a legislative nightmare. So unless some influential politicians start looking into this matter, we're stuck with current system.
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Old May 31st, 2012, 11:38 PM   #8265
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BTW there is a collection going on the Polish forum for A2 highway workers. Donation is 5 ZL - they are hoping to buy two cases of beer or more depending on how much money they get from forumers

After major work is finished (A2 fully covered by SMA) beer will be distributed and workers thanked for job well done.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1517963
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Old May 31st, 2012, 11:41 PM   #8266
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There were attempts to show Drogowskaz Classic (comprehensive new system, documentation here) to them. People in GDDKiA seem to like it as much as anyone, but are not willing to implement it because it would mean changing so much of the existing regulations that it'd be a legislative nightmare. So unless some influential politicians start looking into this matter, we're stuck with current system.
Thanks. I had no idea so that this was so advanced and so much effort went into it. Unfortunately the powers that be would rather stick with status quo than do something for the betterment of all motorists.
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Old May 31st, 2012, 11:46 PM   #8267
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The better way is to [write a] report to Tele Atlas
Yes, I have written several reports to Tele Atlas. Thanks for the reminder. The more of us who do it, the better.
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Old May 31st, 2012, 11:46 PM   #8268
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Asphalt at the end of today on section C A2: 60% done.

Forecast of rain for tomorrow and Saturday, it will be a very close finish for next week! Fingers crossed!
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Old May 31st, 2012, 11:49 PM   #8269
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Green is asphalt laid btw

Black is yet to be laid.
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Old May 31st, 2012, 11:58 PM   #8270
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It's very nearly done from Section B to the DK50 interchange. If Section A will also be done, that would be very useful even if the eastern part would remain closed. How is Section A coming along?
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Old June 1st, 2012, 12:02 AM   #8271
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Section A will only have 30% laid, the rest will wait after the championships, but it will be open fully despite this. I'm guessing A and B will open during the weekend.
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Old June 1st, 2012, 01:49 AM   #8272
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Where is that?
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Old June 1st, 2012, 02:01 AM   #8273
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Some more news from GDDKIA today about the S2 now being delayed

General Directorate for National Roads directed the release of five employees Consortium Arcadis, Egis, route supervisors for the S2 Konotopa-Airport built by Bilfinger Berger Construction. The reason is unreliable and invalid supervision of the execution of the contract.

During routine laboratory tests performed by the Warsaw branch of GDDKiA the construction of the Route S2 Expressway Konotopa to the Warsaw airport, it turned out that the construction of embankments used material inconsistent with the contract - including clay instead of sand. Immediately issued to repair. Guarded command execution engineer employed by the consortium Egis Arcadis-exercising construction supervision. Unfortunately, after another quality control performed at the command headquarters in the laboratory GDDKiA branch in Olsztyn, it turned out that despite the declarations of the Engineer with Arcadis, an embankment has not been corrected and is still carried out in breach of the contract. GDDKiA prosecutor has given the necessary explanations.
GDDKiA also requested the replacement of all, supervising the construction of the vertical road engineers - workers Engineer with Arcadis-Egis consortium.

At this time, samples are analyzed by the laboratory against a decision on how to repair the embankments. It is possible that not all of the embankments will be demolished. If it turns out that, despite non-compliance with specifications, materials used in the construction of embankments shall not affect their stability, they will not be dismantled. GDDKiA demanded the price reduction from the contractor or extension of a guarantee of quality.

The decision will be made early next week.
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Old June 1st, 2012, 09:59 AM   #8274
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Where is that?
Poznan-Zachód.
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Old June 1st, 2012, 10:32 AM   #8275
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In Poland one can see roads that are only a few years old and need to be completely reconstructed, so my question is the following:

Why is it impossible in Poland to build a road without stealing materials or cheating by replacing them with those of bad quality?
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Old June 1st, 2012, 10:43 AM   #8276
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S46

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Now S-46 Opole-Częstochowa is almost in perfect condition. I can't understand anyone complaining about the pavement or anything else; maybe that it's not a proper motorway, but anyway it's a real pleasure driving it nowadays
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There is no such thing as S46. Never was and never will be (according to the current plans anyway). And the road 46 is not even remotely a "proper motorway".
I've been thinking more about this. While obviously far from a top priority, perhaps there should be an S46 someday. What I imagine is an expressway from Częstochowa to Opole to Kłodzko and then to the CZ border in the direction of Hradec Kralove as either the S8 or S46. If the Czechs were to complete the route on their side of the border, that would open up a great route to Prague, Nuremberg, and beyond. It would cut about 150 kilometers off what is currently (planned to be) the best expressway/motorway route between Warsaw and Prague. East of Częstochowa might stay DK46 or might be upgraded to S46 depending on future traffic.

Just a thought I wanted to share. BTW, I have never driven the DK46. Is it 2x2 now?
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Old June 1st, 2012, 10:48 AM   #8277
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I also think an S52 wouldn't be a bad idea for east west traffic from Bielsko-Biala to Kraków, and from say Brno/Olomouc to Kraków and points east. The region around DK52 is quite urbanized.
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Old June 1st, 2012, 11:12 AM   #8278
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In Poland one can see roads that are only a few years old and need to be completely reconstructed, so my question is the following:

Why is it impossible in Poland to build a road without stealing materials or cheating by replacing them with those of bad quality?
Judging by the age of yoru account (one day), you must be quite freuqently blocked. Hint: in order to avoid it in the future, refrain from 1) trolling, 2) posting libelous comments.

This forum has its level of conversation, and we jelaously keep it that way.
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Old June 1st, 2012, 11:46 AM   #8279
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Interesting development. Dragados won a judgement in court against GDDKiA in regards to a canceled contract (S7 Radom-Border of Mazovia). Contract was valued at 677 milion zlotys and won by Dragados.

Contract was then subsequently canceled due to lack of funds. Regional court in Warsaw ruled that the contract must be restarted and proceed as planned. This ruling may mean that other 15 contracts that were also canceled due to lack of funds will have to be restarted. This may cost GDDKiA up to 10 bilion zlotys.

These contracts were shelved for 2013 and beyond likely waiting for new EU 2013-2020 budget allocation.
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Old June 1st, 2012, 12:49 PM   #8280
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Judging by the age of yoru account (one day), you must be quite freuqently blocked. Hint: in order to avoid it in the future, refrain from 1) trolling, 2) posting libelous comments.

This forum has its level of conversation, and we jelaously keep it that way.
Interesting is this way to discredit a new member (who's in fact is not new to the forum) and refuse to look the face reality by using arrogance, among others.

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