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Old April 5th, 2008, 09:28 PM   #821
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No, I take them from our polish subforum Infrastruktura Drogowa(Road Infrastructure)

I always write who took that pics, don't I?
I usually check there from time to time, but it's hard to find good pics in those huge threads. Even the fotorelacje threads means a lot of browsing and searching. I think it's only easy to find thing if you are a regular constant reader there.
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Old April 5th, 2008, 09:37 PM   #822
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So that is why I'm posting them here so You can see what is happenig over there in Poland

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and now sth not from SSC

A recipe how to build an expressway:
  1. We take regular 1x2 DK road
  2. Build bypasses of bigger cities
  3. Add 2nd line to existing road
  4. Build flyovers
Et voila!

S7 Warsaw - Radom
section Białobrzegi -Jedlińsk


http://www.bialobrzegidk7.pl/lot.htm













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Old April 5th, 2008, 09:50 PM   #823
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But it will be not so great when expressways become eventually toll
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Old April 5th, 2008, 09:57 PM   #824
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It is still distant future, then we will have electronic toll system(after 2011)
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Old April 5th, 2008, 10:32 PM   #825
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Will the A4 eventually be entirely tolled? Since the Kraków-Katowice section is already tolled, I expected the whole A4 to be tolled.
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Old April 5th, 2008, 10:44 PM   #826
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Are You really looking forward to it?

Yes, EVENTUALLY all highways will be tolled(apart from A6 and A18)

Zgorzelec - Krzyżowa: in like 2-3(maybe later) years after opening
Krzyzowa - Wrocław: after annexation of emergency lane(together with 3rd lane) in 2 years(??)
Wrocław - Gliwice: in 22 months from now on

Kraków and Katowice/GOP bypasses are toll-free
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Old April 5th, 2008, 10:44 PM   #827
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Yes, it will be. All polish motorway will be toll, but I am not shure about A8...
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Old April 5th, 2008, 10:48 PM   #828
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Are You really looking forward to it?
Err, no.

What about the A8. Does it already exist as some Wroclaw bypass? And will it continue until the Czech Republic and Lodz in future? (sorry I forgot all those ')
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Old April 5th, 2008, 10:56 PM   #829
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Tell me more about the widening of the A4 between Krzyżowa and Wrocław
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Old April 5th, 2008, 10:59 PM   #830
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It will continue to LT border(passing by Łódź and Warsaw and CZ one, but not as a highway, but expressway

Only Wrocław bypass will be A standard

The S8 towards Łódź already exists: as Olesnica bypass(pics were already here so i won't post them again), between Warsaw and Wyszków and as Ostrów Mazowiecka bypass
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Old April 5th, 2008, 11:03 PM   #831
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Well... it looks like it will be required for couple of years. Bridges are from pre-war times, so thry will be needed to substitution by brand new ones.
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Old April 5th, 2008, 11:06 PM   #832
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Tell me more about the widening of the A4 between Krzyżowa and Wrocław
Well, I do not know much, only that it will be rebuild into 2x3 + shoulders in "nearest future" - info from person connected with GDDKiA(Management of roads and highways)
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Old April 5th, 2008, 11:08 PM   #833
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Does the Polish road authority conduct traffic counts, and are they available to the public?
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Old April 5th, 2008, 11:12 PM   #834
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Do you mean AADT ? I do not know. I wish to see such data.
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Old April 6th, 2008, 12:19 AM   #835
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[B]S22 Elbląg - PL/RUS

Part of former Reichsautobahn Berlin - Stettin - Elbing - Königsberg

Border crossing:

To be continued
Nice to see this part of the Berlinka is being under reconstruction, with a real border-crossing. In PL it still is a half-"autobahn" - good work you've never removed the overpasses. On the Russian side, however, it has some at-grade crossings, because the Soviets were "a bit careless". Will those be reinstated to grade-separated crossings ?

And finally: what date is mentioned for the re-opening of this part of the S22 to Krolewiec ?
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Old April 6th, 2008, 12:33 AM   #836
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Old April 6th, 2008, 12:41 AM   #837
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You better watch yourself. What car is this anyway? And where did you get www.verso.pl?
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Old April 6th, 2008, 10:43 AM   #839
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In PL it still is a half-"autobahn"
Last 2 km by the border will be 2x2, the traffic is too low to make it 2x2 as a whole

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Will those[in Russia] be reinstated to grade-separated crossings ?
I do not think so - check GoogleEarth - all crossings are prepared to be non-separated

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what date is mentioned for the re-opening of this part of the S22 to Krolewiec ?
Well, polish part have some delay and I suppose it will be opened end 2008
I do not know nothing about russian part


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You better watch yourself. What car is this anyway? And where did you get www.verso.pl?
Well, the site's name is a coincidence
It is devoted to personalized number plates
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Old April 7th, 2008, 05:29 PM   #840
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Does the Polish road authority conduct traffic counts,
Sure they do. Every 5 years.
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and are they available to the public?
Once I've tried to find them on official pages of GDDKiA, but could not.
Luckily, SISKOM, a non-government organization, saved the data on their pages: http://www.siskom.waw.pl/nauka-gpr.htm
Direct link to the map of traffic volumes for all national (DK) and provincial (DW) roads: http://www.siskom.waw.pl/nauka/gpr/s...wodzki2005.pdf

GPR = Generalny pomiar ruchu = general traffic data collection
SDR = Średni dobowy ruch (pojazdów samochodowych) = AADT
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