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Old June 7th, 2012, 04:37 AM   #8421
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How is this relevant?
Railway density is a mark of 19th/20th century development. You are comparing kaiser's Prussia to tzar's Russia. Poland was non-existent at that time.

BTW: take a look at current map of railways in Poland: http://www.bueker.net/trainspotting/...and/poland.gif (too large to paste it here).
Not that obvious anymore, huh?
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Old June 7th, 2012, 10:39 AM   #8422
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Can we stick to the topic please? This forum is dedicated to Polish roads not railways - there is a separate forum for railways called Poland - railways for all railway related issues and news in Poland
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Old June 7th, 2012, 11:57 AM   #8423
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Old June 7th, 2012, 11:57 AM   #8424
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BTW there is a collection going on the Polish forum for A2 highway workers. Donation is 5 ZL - they are hoping to buy two cases of beer or more depending on how much money they get from forumers

After major work is finished (A2 fully covered by SMA) beer will be distributed and workers thanked for job well done.
Update on this:
FPW users (Polish Roads section) collected over 5000 ZL in donations and bought 77 cases of beer. Beer was delievered yesterday before the official openining of Section C (A2 highway) to the workers who have worked so hard for the past couple of months making sure this highway was ready before Euro2012.



Caption reads - "Community of Internet forum Skyscrapercity wishes to convey its respect and recognition to builders of Section C of A2 highway Strykow-Konotopa. Good job gentlemen. We thank you."



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Old June 7th, 2012, 12:08 PM   #8425
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Old June 7th, 2012, 12:26 PM   #8426
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Are there any definitive opening dates yet for the S8 Zambrów bypass and the Jeżewo to Białystok S8 expressway section?

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Old June 7th, 2012, 01:12 PM   #8427
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Many people doubted that the A2 between Łódż and Warsaw would open before Euro 2012 but how wrong they were!
I was one of the doubters and I'm very happy to have been proved wrong!
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Old June 7th, 2012, 02:11 PM   #8428
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Update on this:
FPW users (Polish Roads section) collected over 5000 ZL in donations and bought 77 cases of beer. Beer was delievered yesterday before the official openining of Section C (A2 highway) to the workers who have worked so hard for the past couple of months making sure this highway was ready before Euro2012.
Actually 5220 PLN was donated, and to whom it might concern, for today it's about 1200 EUR. Congrats!
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Old June 7th, 2012, 02:23 PM   #8429
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No bad, isn't it?

No bad at all!
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Old June 7th, 2012, 02:24 PM   #8430
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Actually 5220 PLN was donated, and to whom it might concern, for today it's about 1200 EUR. Congrats!
A great choice of beer and well deserved. The envy of other European infrastructure projects and something to be proud of.

I will open a Ciechan for the opening match tomorrow.
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Old June 7th, 2012, 02:24 PM   #8431
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I was also one of the doubters. It was not possible for me to belive they could have a motorway all the way from Berlin to Warszawa before Euro 2012 opened.

But now this motorway is open all the way. And this motorway is much more important for Warszawa than Euro 2012. In July, the Euro 2012 is ended and history. However the motorway exists. And it will continue to be very important not only for Warszawa, but for other major cities like Łódź or Poznań. But the motorway will not only give Warszawa a motorway to Berlin now, it also gives Berlin a motorway to Warszawa and other important places in Poland. For Poland and Germany may have a very nice exchange of each other. So, this motorway will probably be equally good for both Berlin and Warszawa.

Congratulations Warszawa for your new motorway! It will be very good for Warszawa
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Old June 7th, 2012, 02:33 PM   #8432
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now let's hope that EU budget for 2014-2020 is at least as good as the last one so we can start round 2. Many projects are only waiting for green light from Ministry of Finance and we can start tenders and building.
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Old June 7th, 2012, 02:35 PM   #8433
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Are there any definitive opening dates yet for the S8 Zambrów bypass and the Jeżewo to Białystok S8 expressway section?
Nothing about road opening dates is definitive
Zambrów bypass is delayed until end of August AFAIK, S8 Jeżewo-Białystok should be ready in September.
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Old June 7th, 2012, 02:38 PM   #8434
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Donald Tusk was bombing around A2

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Old June 7th, 2012, 05:00 PM   #8435
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Expressway S5 + Motorways A2 + Expressway S11 (Poznań baypass)


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Old June 7th, 2012, 05:12 PM   #8436
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Poznań - a much smaller city than Warsaw has a complete outer ring road (S5, DK92, S11 & A2) now yet the capital Warsaw doesn't
Same for Szczecin (A6/S3), Gdańsk (S6) and Wrocław (A8) which all have entire outer bypasses and outer ring roads

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Old June 7th, 2012, 05:35 PM   #8437
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Even a lot more smaller city, Bielsko-Biała, has a proper baypass.
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Old June 7th, 2012, 05:36 PM   #8438
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Donald Tusk was bombing around A2

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/8iWov.jpg[IMG]
I guess he doesn't care about the speed limit .


How is it in reality this year ? I remember last time I was in Poland I would drive 180km/h constantly on the A2 and nobody would bat an eye, I was even overtaken once in a while.
I mean I know you ''may only'' drive 140, but in reality, does the Police care if you break that limit ?
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Old June 7th, 2012, 05:45 PM   #8439
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Even a lot more smaller city, Bielsko-Biała, has a proper baypass.
Sorry forgot about Bielsko-Biała. We can also add Gliwice to the list (DK88, A4, A1) to the list of small towns with a complete outer ring road
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Old June 7th, 2012, 05:50 PM   #8440
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Even Świecko, pop. 180, has a bypass
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