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Old November 1st, 2012, 11:22 PM   #9101
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Changing the background won't improve visibility for sure. I think it's a bad idea.
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with an improvment - red colour added. The sign is clear and easy to get, so where is problem?
It's not about the colour. Problem is, some people here think that those signs are not necessary. But unlike US or Denmark, it's an experinment here and signs are necessary to show drivers how to use this lane.
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Old November 1st, 2012, 11:38 PM   #9102
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Changing the background won't improve visibility for sure.
Increasing contrast increases readability.
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 12:53 AM   #9103
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Speaking of which, some changes in road sign layout are planned. For example warning signs will get a white backgroung instead of yellow
Really, that is a plan? Correct me if I am wrong, the whole idea behind yellow background signs is to be more visible in snowy winter. This is maybe unique in our part of Europe but it make sense. Every winter in Poland is snowy so why do we have to follow others (most probably Germany) in this case? Changing these signs is just unnecessary cost in my opinion
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 03:41 AM   #9104
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We know nothing for sure. Let's wait a couple of days.
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 11:24 AM   #9105
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I'm sure the sign in this instance is necessary, since the situation is nonstandard, I just think it is a bad idea to introduce nonstandard situations in general. If this is a limited experiment to test viability, fine.
And if authorities decide it works, then by all means, introduce it as a standard way to construct turns, wherever it will work better than the alternatives. And then make sure to teach proper usage to new drivers.
Putting up the signs is a necessary evil. I accept they are necessary for drivers who haven't been taught. But there are costs to putting up signs about everything. Drivers only have a limited amount of attention for signs when driving along, and there is a hierarchy of importance in signs. Any sign lower in the hierarchy take away attention from signs higher up.
Bigger numbers of signs also add to the confusion of drivers. The capability of the driving population spans a wide spectrum and those towards the bottom will start to do more stupid shit the more confused they are.
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 10:10 PM   #9106
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According to GDDKiA, 85 km of A1 Łódź - Kowal has just been opened for traffic

http://www.gddkia.gov.pl/pl/a/11709/...autostrada-A-1
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 10:17 PM   #9107
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According to GDDKiA, 85 km of A1 Łódź - Kowal has just been opened for traffic
Wow! Cool! Bevakasha!

I guess that means we can look forward to seeing an updated map soon.
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 10:20 PM   #9108
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Wow! Cool! Bevakasha!

I guess that means we can look forward to seeing an updated map soon.
Todah rabah

We're all awaiting fresh pics from newly opened A1
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 10:32 PM   #9109
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I guess that means we can look forward to seeing an updated map soon.
http://i.imgur.com/uEl7A.png

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Old November 2nd, 2012, 10:33 PM   #9110
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Isn't she beautiful? getting more and more mature
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 10:39 PM   #9111
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Why is a large section of the S8 between Wroclaw and Lodz shown in grey rather than in red?
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 10:39 PM   #9112
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yeah, I also spotted missing bits on this picture, namely Lublin's northern circular ... and couple of other streches of S7 ... north of Warsaw to Gdansk ...

Chris, you seem to have digged out very old revision of Polish roads and motorways.
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 10:40 PM   #9113
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S8's missing.
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 10:49 PM   #9114
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From what I can see, the first post in this thread seems to show updated maps.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...waMapaStan.svg

...and the large one: http://ssc.siskom.waw.pl/nowa-mapa.png

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Old November 2nd, 2012, 10:52 PM   #9115
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Better?
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 10:55 PM   #9116
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 10:59 PM   #9117
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Better?
Yes, but still significant deficiencies compared to the one linked to just above.
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 11:02 PM   #9118
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Does anyone know if all the exits on the new stretch opened too?
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 11:38 PM   #9119
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That's nice. Till 2020 we should have a consistent highway network between main cities, with a perspective for further development. Cannot wait to see the map above filled up.
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Old November 3rd, 2012, 12:08 AM   #9120
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Does anyone know if all the exits on the new stretch opened too?
As a matter of fact it turned out that A1 won't open until Monday or even Tuesday. Someone made the news release too soon by mistake.
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