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Old November 14th, 2012, 05:04 PM   #9161
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Old November 14th, 2012, 05:07 PM   #9162
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Definitely rent a car!

Theoreticly you've got all the train time-tables and schemes but it just doesn't work... They just exist..somewhere
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Old November 14th, 2012, 05:15 PM   #9163
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Old November 14th, 2012, 05:17 PM   #9164
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Definitely rent a car!

Theoreticly you've got all the train time-tables and schemes but it just doesn't work... They just exist..somewhere
What doesn't work ?
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Old November 14th, 2012, 05:20 PM   #9165
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Definitely rent a car!

Theoreticly you've got all the train time-tables and schemes but it just doesn't work... They just exist..somewhere
Public transportation definitely does work and is quite effective. Using a car is a viable option too, it's more comfortable, but also more expensive.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 05:20 PM   #9166
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S12/17/19 by GDDKiA

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Więc jedziemy:

Węzeł Sielce od Warszawy



Węzeł Sielce od Puław



WD3 od południa



MS4 i MD4a



Pojezierze Kurowskie, czyli siódmy kilometr trasy

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MS5 na rzece Białce



Węzeł Kurów (WD6) od południa



PG7



MOP Markuszów Północ



WD9

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WS11 - Węzeł Przybysławice



WD12



WD13 z bazą Moty w tle



MS14, rzeka Kurówka i wieś Karolin



WS15, DW828 i nowy dojazd do wsi Karolin




Wszystkie zdjęcia pochodzą z witryny gddkia.gov.pl

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Old November 14th, 2012, 05:27 PM   #9167
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Old November 14th, 2012, 06:49 PM   #9168
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Just a random thought:

Is Poland considered a car country or one where trains and public transport dominate?
Just like in most European countries, cars are the most popular transport method and you can see this here (lot of road investments). Public transport is most important in big cities like Warsaw, Kraków, Gdansk, where is well developed. Big events (like concerts or football matches) also rely mainly on public transport. Do not forget about bikes - utility cycling is minority in Poland, but lately the popularity is growing.
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Should I take trains and use public transport if and whenever I'm in Poland......or should I rent a car?
If you plan to stay mainly in big cities (with some occasional trips to other ones), there's no need to rent a car. Public transport is quite efficient, you can also rent a bike.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 06:50 PM   #9169
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Do not forget about bikes - utility cycling is minority in Poland, but lately the popularity is growing.
Infrastruktura rowerowa

I noticed the Polish bicycle infrastructure designers took a lot of Dutch elements.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 06:56 PM   #9170
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I noticed the Polish bicycle infrastructure designers took a lot of Dutch elements.
I wish... Dutch cycling infrastructure is considered a benchmark and an example to follow, but unfortunately we're still centuries behind you.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 06:59 PM   #9171
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It's hard to fit good bicycle infrastructure within existing urban environments. The Netherlands planned bicycle infrastructure in all post-1960 neighborhoods. In fact, bicycling in the Netherlands is much better in the suburban areas than it is around the city center where there was no space for detached bicycle routes. Poland has to deal with this issue quite a lot. I think it only works to the maximum potential if all urban expansions are carefully planned. So far I've seen a lot of new urban expansions in Poland, but it's rather fragmented (just look around Gdańsk or Warszawa).
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Old November 14th, 2012, 07:11 PM   #9172
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It's hard to fit good bicycle infrastructure within existing urban environments.
Obviously, but even in new road projects in Poland cyclists' needs are often overlooked or the infrastructure for bicycles is squeezed in in the last second and is of low quality. Bikeways are narrow and have sharp turns, they swing from one side of the road to the other, ramps are very steep etc. One example is S79 in Warsaw posted on the previous page. This short piece of road between Marynarska and Puławska (along S2) cost us over 250 million EUR, but nobody thought of cyclists and there is no bikeway or a bike lane along Marynarska street.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 07:47 PM   #9173
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Do you know if there is a cycling road near the lazurowa-gorczewska ( S8 ) interchange?
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Old November 14th, 2012, 09:12 PM   #9174
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Well, kind of. There are bits of a bikeway along Lazurowa, but those are useless right now, because they end abruptly and aren't connected with anything. There will be a longer piece of a bikeway along Górczewska once the construction of Lazurowa/Górczewska junction ends.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 09:25 PM   #9175
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When is it gonna end?
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Old November 14th, 2012, 09:46 PM   #9176
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AFAIK they were supposed to end it in August, I don't know what's the new deadline.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 11:38 PM   #9177
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Depends on the place. Bigger cities have well developed public transport. Outside main cities car is the king.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 11:50 PM   #9178
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New A1 in Poland

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Old November 15th, 2012, 12:00 AM   #9179
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Depends on the place. Bigger cities have well developed public transport. Outside main cities car is the king.
And on long distances, trains are at best as quick as cars/coaches; usually slower.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 12:32 AM   #9180
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Great video and great motorway. Finally, I should say

The only thing that annoys me are those bloody noise barriers...
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