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Old January 7th, 2013, 12:37 AM   #9421
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My apologies if this was already discussed 200 pages ago, but I've just noticed that there is no full motorway in existence or in construction between Warsaw and Krakow, the two biggest cities in Poland. Why is that? Is there perhaps a good expressway on that route already?
Some people take 8-S8-1-S1-A4, which is 2x2 all way.

http://www.google.com/maps?saddr=war...k%C3%B3w&via=1
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Old January 7th, 2013, 03:10 AM   #9422
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What about last part of A4, Radymno-Korczowa section? I guess 22km of this section is much more expensive than putting new pavement on 1 line of A18. If you ask me, which motorway should have higher priority I would say definitly A18.
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Old January 7th, 2013, 03:51 AM   #9423
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The eastbound carriageway of the A18 does not need re-paving. No part of the existing carriageway is realistically re-usable. It needs to be completely reconstructed de novo.
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Old January 8th, 2013, 01:30 PM   #9424
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The average driving time between Warsaw and Katowice is around four hours, correct?

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Old January 8th, 2013, 01:36 PM   #9425
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Around three. http://mapa.targeo.pl/Warszawa_Katow...440d92efbbf262
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Old January 9th, 2013, 07:39 PM   #9426
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If you are not taking any breaks it is 3 hours during the night and around 3 hours 45 minutes during the day.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 08:01 PM   #9427
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It takes me three hours during the day to reach the A1/A4 intersection, but I drive faster than the average driver.
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Old January 12th, 2013, 11:32 AM   #9428
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http://www.viatoll.pl/en/heavy-vehic...viatoll-system

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From 12 January new road sections are included in the viaTOLL system

We kindly notify you that from 12 January 2013 the electronic toll collection system viaTOLL will be effective on six new sections of toll roads. In accordance with the regulation of the Council of Ministers the expansion will include about 139.2 km of roads.

The A1 motorway on the sections:

Pyrzowice node – Sośnica node (43.7 km),
Kotlińska node – Stryków I node (39.3 km).

The S1 expressway on the section:

Pyrzowice node – Lotnisko node (1.9 km).

The S8 expressway on the sections:

Pawłowice node – Dąbrowa node (22.1 km),
Cieśle node – Syców-Wschód node (25.1 km),
Modlińska node – Piłsudskiego node (7.1 km).

Vehicles or combination vehicles with MPW > 3.5 tonnes will be subject to toll.

Detailed information about new toll road sections is presented on the map below.

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Old January 12th, 2013, 05:32 PM   #9429
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So the on 16th Jan 2013 works on the S17 between the Piaski bypass and Lublin Witosa are finally supposed to stop and the road officially becomes an expressway. Its a pity we won't see the S2 Konotopa - Lotnisko and S79 open on the same day (I can't see these two roads opening before April as without the S2 the S79 is a useless road really)
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Old January 12th, 2013, 07:46 PM   #9430
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Two interesting pieces of statistics released by police for the year 2012 compared to 2011

- number of stolen cars 15 424 (out of 17 mln registered), -5.4 %
- deaths on roads 3520 (1138 were pedestrians), -16 %
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Old January 12th, 2013, 08:03 PM   #9431
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Its a pity we won't see the S2 Konotopa - Lotnisko and S79 open on the same day (I can't see these two roads opening before April as without the S2 the S79 is a useless road really)
As far as I know, the plan seems to be to open these in June.
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Old January 12th, 2013, 08:11 PM   #9432
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- number of stolen cars 15 424 (out of 17 mln registered), -5.4 %
So you have more chance of getting your car stolen in the Netherlands than in Poland. In the Netherlands there were 11 658 cars stolen (out of 9 million registered) in 2011. One out of every 772 cars is stolen in the Netherlands. This is one out of 1102 in Poland.
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Old January 12th, 2013, 08:41 PM   #9433
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I wonder what's the rate of stolen car "recycling" - how many cars stolen in Poland have been previously stolen from Netherlands and sold in Poland
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Old January 12th, 2013, 08:58 PM   #9434
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Car ownership in Poland also passed the Netherlands in 2011.

2011 car ownership per 1000 inhabitants, including both the highest and lowest in Europe as a reference;

* Luxembourg: 657
* Poland: 474
* Netherlands: 467
* Moldova: 39
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Old January 12th, 2013, 09:00 PM   #9435
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In Warsaw the most stolen cars are Honda Accord, Honda CRV, Toyota Corolla, Toyota Yaris, Mazdas. (no single Citroen, Jeep and Jaguar was stolen in 2010!)
But in the rest of Poland Volksvagen and its subsidiaries like Skoda and Seat are the most stolen cars. The smallest probability of a car theft is when you own korean car makes.
In Silesia and surroundings ( the second after Warsaw in the number of car thefts) most stolen are french makes which are barely toutched in the rest of the country.
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Old January 12th, 2013, 09:10 PM   #9436
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Car ownership in Poland also passed the Netherlands in 2011.

2011 car ownership per 1000 inhabitants, including both the highest and lowest in Europe as a reference;

* Luxembourg: 657
* Poland: 474
* Netherlands: 467
* Moldova: 39
What's the age of a car in Netherland? In Poland is around 10 years or even more.
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Old January 12th, 2013, 09:24 PM   #9437
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The average age of a car licensed in the Netherlands was 8.6 years in 2010. It has been steadily increasing since 2000.
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Old January 12th, 2013, 09:25 PM   #9438
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In Warsaw the most stolen cars are Honda Accord
OK, not going to Warsaw then
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Old January 12th, 2013, 09:35 PM   #9439
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Car ownership in Poland also passed the Netherlands in 2011.

2011 car ownership per 1000 inhabitants, including both the highest and lowest in Europe as a reference;

* Luxembourg: 657
* Poland: 474
* Netherlands: 467
* Moldova: 39
and how about bicycles ?
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Old January 12th, 2013, 09:45 PM   #9440
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Long-distance traffic can avoid A18 quite easily by taking A14 south from Magdeburg and then take A4 east via Dresden into Poland. It's approximately 30 kilometers longer, and Google Maps even suggest this route as their primary route between Hannover and Wrocław.

However I do agree that renovating DK18 eastbound should be a higher priority. Having a road in that condition is unacceptable, even if it carries little traffic. Unfortunately repairing concrete pavement over a distance of 70 kilometers or so is quite expensive.
Since A4 (Zgorzelec - Krzyzowa) is open me and all me friends living, working, studding in D, NL, B, DK always drive via Dresden to Poland. Because of this horribly bad stretch of eastbound A18. On the way back (west direction) via A18
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