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Old January 19th, 2013, 04:04 PM   #9461
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Can someone post the latest map of U/C and finished roads in Poland?
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Old January 19th, 2013, 04:05 PM   #9462
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Old January 19th, 2013, 04:09 PM   #9463
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I guess red one's are U/C?
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Old January 19th, 2013, 04:16 PM   #9464
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I guess red one's are U/C?
Red - U/C
Pink - under technical design
Yellow - tender for construction
Orange - tender for technical design
Blue - environment impact

Is the massive environment impact assesment a way of avoiding NIMBies and ecological organizations consolidation?
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Old January 19th, 2013, 04:27 PM   #9465
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Thanks, I will be taking a trip to Poland this summer from Riga. A friend of my family wants to see some castles (dont remember the names) and some concentration camps. AFAIK it's not far from Warszaw, what would be the best route to use?
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Old January 19th, 2013, 04:46 PM   #9466
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Depends which camp - the closest to Warsaw is Treblinka, but the most known - Auschwitz.
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plik:Ko...zionslager.png

As for driving from Riga to Warsaw, take roads 8-61-8 through Suwalki, Augustow, Grajewo, Zambrow, Ostrow Mazowiecka.
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Old January 19th, 2013, 04:50 PM   #9467
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Thanks for the info!
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Old January 19th, 2013, 08:23 PM   #9468
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S61 South of Suwałki is really now U/C?
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Old January 19th, 2013, 08:34 PM   #9469
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Yep, starting December 28th, including Augustów bypass (1x2, grade-separated)
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Old January 19th, 2013, 08:38 PM   #9470
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Good, good. Has Augustów bypass location changed a bit?
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Old January 19th, 2013, 10:06 PM   #9471
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Even more than that:
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Old January 19th, 2013, 10:59 PM   #9472
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S61 South of Suwałki is really now U/C?
Sure. Why would the S61 not be under construction? It's not the most important road project in Poland, but it is an important project.
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Old January 20th, 2013, 10:48 AM   #9473
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Even more than that:
http://i.imgur.com/OuJzi.jpg
Aha, so that's how it will look like. I thought that why S61 ends in the middle of nowhere.., this bypass plan now gives more sense. Thanks!

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Sure. Why would the S61 not be under construction? It's not the most important road project in Poland, but it is an important project.
I'm glad that it's finally U/C! It was unexpected to see all of a sudden that stretch marked as red in 'siskom' map, hopefully works will start on Suwałki bypass and the rest soon!
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Old January 20th, 2013, 01:03 PM   #9474
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It will not. Suwalki's bypass is planned for 2015/2020+. The funny thing is that Augustow bypass and Suwalki bypass are one project but some genious split them into two. And now Augustow bypass will end in middle of nowhere.
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Old January 20th, 2013, 01:35 PM   #9475
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It will not. Suwalki's bypass is planned for 2015/2020+. The funny thing is that Augustow bypass and Suwalki bypass are one project but some genious split them into two. And now Augustow bypass will end in middle of nowhere.
There is an interchange at the end of the current section near Raczki. Will there be a temporary connection to an other road?

Even when the Augustow bypass will be completed, the road to south-west also will end in the middle of nowhere. There is no overfly for the main direction from north-west to south. Why is here such an interchange? Where does the south-west road go to?
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Old January 20th, 2013, 03:16 PM   #9476
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I think this current S61 U/C stretch is counted more as Augustów bypass project, rather Suwałki. IMO it's an alternative version of the bypass to the one blocked by greenies in 2007. Either way, when these both roads will get built, heavy transport flow will be redirected to these new routes and taking current DK8 route will be prohibited. So this one is pretty much being built for truck transit reasons.
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Old January 20th, 2013, 04:59 PM   #9477
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Interesting. Is this the route that is supposed to be used when driving from Lithuania to Warsaw?

At least in that map, the stretch south of Suwalki seems to end in "nowhere"...

The road 8 via Bialystok, although longer, has more dual-carriage roads and is therefor more convenient, I think.
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Old January 20th, 2013, 05:23 PM   #9478
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There is an interchange at the end of the current section near Raczki. Will there be a temporary connection to an other road?

Even when the Augustow bypass will be completed, the road to south-west also will end in the middle of nowhere. There is no overfly for the main direction from north-west to south. Why is here such an interchange? Where does the south-west road go to?
President of Suwalki protested against not building Suwalki's bypass in near future and said that he won't let to build that connector and the city will block itself to vehicles above 3,5t.
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President of Suwalki protested against not building Suwalki's bypass in near future and said that he won't let to build that connector and the city will block itself to vehicles above 3,5t.
Which connector? A temporary one?
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Old January 20th, 2013, 06:03 PM   #9480
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President of Suwalki protested against not building Suwalki's bypass in near future and said that he won't let to build that connector and the city will block itself to vehicles above 3,5t.
Hmmm. Suwalki would block deliveries of food to Suwalki? I don't think that would work for very long.
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