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Old February 14th, 2013, 03:50 PM   #9561
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What would you recommend from Krakow to Kosice? Must not be the fastest, but also maybe picturesque, but not heavy damaged road.

Goole Maps gives me these two options:
1. http://goo.gl/maps/XHLju
2. http://goo.gl/maps/utaeL

But I was also thinking about one of these:
3. http://goo.gl/maps/ilqbY
4. http://goo.gl/maps/GUPiF, here Google Maps seems to have problems routing over the border
5. http://goo.gl/maps/LwmTY
I drove the first one, road quite ok, but not very picturesque. Just 10-15km immediately after you enter Poland the road is just 1 lane for both direction, but the traffic is not big at all.

However if you want a more scenic drive I would recommend 3 or 4. You could visit the nice medieval town of Levoca, Spis Castle and Tatra mountains. And roads are good I think, with expressway or motorways sections.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 04:59 PM   #9562
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http://www.nasdaq.com/article/eu-bud...6#.URz50lfDW40

WARSAW--Last week's compromise on the European Union's multi-year budget is positive for Poland's credit rating as the country managed to secure an increase in funding, rating agency Moody's said Thursday.

Despite overall EU budget cuts for years 2014-20, Poland was awarded a slight increase in EU funding, with 72.9 billion euros ($98.1 billion) earmarked for structural funds and EUR28.5 billion in funding for its agriculture sector.

"The increase in EU financing is credit positive because it will support the Polish government's efforts to expand infrastructure investment in order to stimulate a slowing economy and boost long-term economic growth," Moody's wrote.



Now we know that Poland is very likely to receive this amount of money which can only mean great news for further construction developments and building a wider established road network. But at what time this year can we expect to announce how much will be allowed for motorways and expressways? I heard somewhere that Poland is likely to put the new budget more emphasis on railway development and less on building new roads. Is this accurate?
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Old February 14th, 2013, 05:51 PM   #9563
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Rumour is that the EU itself will be more keen to accept rail or other 'more eco' (trams, trolleybuses, perhaps electric buses) projects more than road projects, but I only heard this in relation to urban development, not intercity scale. However, I wouldn't be shocked if it applied to intercity as well. Then again, the Polish railway network is mostly in agony and only the core routes seem to be getting a decent look at them, so it may be a chance for the rest of the rail network.
Though, I personally wouldn't mind DK7 south of Radom finally getting a decent quality (not that isn't, but it's bloody popular nevertheless and a capacity raise would be nice) - 70km/h applies there for a vast majority of the route right now, whereas Sing it () would make it 120 probably. The equivalent railway route is also planned to get 120km/h before 2020, but seeing what the hell is going north of Radom, up to Warsaw, I really question that happening.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 05:58 PM   #9564
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Signals we've been getting from Ministry of Regional Development (which deals with EU funds) could hint that still a large portion of cohesion funds will be used for road investments, the change being that they'll only be used for large, interregional (or even international) projects. So basically no more EU funds for local roads, just for motorways and expressways. But how much exactly will be spent on roads and how much on rail infrastructure is still not decided. Things should clear up before summer I suppose.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 04:22 PM   #9565
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What is the likelihood of the S2 between Konotopa (A2) and Pulawska together with the S79 opening in June 2013? Without the S2 being finished the S79 is somewhat of a useless route. Realistically once the huge amount of snow is gone and the Polish winter is over I could see them both opened to traffic in June
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Old February 26th, 2013, 04:36 PM   #9566
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I'd say it's likely that S2 and S79 will be opened for traffic some time this summer. There isn't that much work left (except for Marynarska interchange on S79), if they hurry up they could easily finish it in 3-4 months. But there have been so many unpleasant surprises on those contracts so far, that I'd be very careful with predicting any opening dates... Anyway, the winter is slowly coming to an end, works on the most delayed parts have been progressing despite the weather, so I'm optimistic about early July opening.

In other news, finally the proposals in the tenders for two important parts of S8 in Warsaw (Raszyn bypass and the bridge over Vistula river) have been opened, so there is a chance the works will start in about 3 months. Best offers in both tenders are much lower than GDDKiA was willing to pay, somewhere around 60% of the expected price.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 04:55 PM   #9567
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[QUOTE=toonczyk;100690601]I'd say it's likely that S2 and S79 will be opened for traffic some time this summer. There isn't that much work left (except for Marynarska interchange on S79), if they hurry up they could easily finish it in 3-4 months. But there have been so many unpleasant surprises on those contracts so far, that I'd be very careful with predicting any opening dates... Anyway, the winter is slowly coming to an end, works on the most delayed parts have been progressing despite the weather, so I'm optimistic about early July opening.

Thats great news I look forward to seeing them both open in June or later on in the summer
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Old March 2nd, 2013, 07:06 PM   #9568
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S3 Międzyrzecz - Sulechów _ 28.02.2013

This stretch probably is going to be open on June 15, interchange Jordanowo maybe earlier in April.


WS02


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South ^ ^ in background Interchange Jordanowo A2


North ^ ^ in background Interchange Jordanowo A2


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Old March 4th, 2013, 11:12 AM   #9569
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A4 highway Kraków-Tarnów 26.02.2013(still under construction on few sections):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9DL8ZWBYpw

S12/S17 expressway Lublin-Piaski-Lublin (final touches) + drive through the city 01.03.2013:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzcYYPozdW0

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Old March 4th, 2013, 01:48 PM   #9570
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Wow by the looks of it Poland has had a lot of snow this year
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Old March 4th, 2013, 05:54 PM   #9571
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When will they mop up the remaining works on A4 Kraków - Tarnów?
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Old March 7th, 2013, 10:13 PM   #9572
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S12/17/19

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Old March 7th, 2013, 10:42 PM   #9573
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S12/17/19
It's only S12/S17 form Kurów to Bogucin near Lublin.
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Really? You'd think it would run to Piaski.
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Old March 8th, 2013, 11:38 PM   #9575
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S19 will be only a part of Lublin bypass and will have the same route with S12 and S17 only from "Węzeł <intercharge> Dąbrowica" to "Węzeł Lubartów" on this picture :



Full route of S19:



S12/S17 [E372/E373]have the same route only on this section:



http://mapa.targeo.pl/Mapa_Polski,24...59c37a636d2d36
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Old March 9th, 2013, 04:07 AM   #9576
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Where will the S19 cross the LT border?
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Sorry, this map is better:

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It's only S12/S17 form Kurów to Bogucin near Lublin.

When is this section supposed to be opened to traffic? I am sure that the full ring road around Lublin will be completed by next year
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Where will the S19 cross the LT border?
No, the S19 will cross the BY border.
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Old March 9th, 2013, 05:45 PM   #9580
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It's only S12/S17 form Kurów to Bogucin near Lublin.

When is this section supposed to be opened to traffic? I am sure that the full ring road around Lublin will be completed by next year
We shall see. There are concerns around placed in service date as the general contractor is delaying works against the time schedule. Anyhow it is not that clear if originally agreed date will be kept.
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