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Old May 23rd, 2013, 01:57 PM   #9881
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The number of the road changes, doesn't it? And there are different laws of the road (and laws full stop). Those are useful things to know, even if there isn't passport control!

And given this and this are both far less meaningful, but signed, it is a nonsense to suggest that Poland-Czechia border isn't something worth signing.
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 03:08 PM   #9882
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The number of the road changes, doesn't it? And there are different laws of the road (and laws full stop). Those are useful things to know, even if there isn't passport control!

And given this and this are both far less meaningful, but signed, it is a nonsense to suggest that Poland-Czechia border isn't something worth signing.
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 03:45 PM   #9883
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The number of the road changes, doesn't it? And there are different laws of the road (and laws full stop). Those are useful things to know, even if there isn't passport control!

And given this and this are both far less meaningful, but signed, it is a nonsense to suggest that Poland-Czechia border isn't something worth signing.
It was not my intention to suggest that there should not be any signs at the border. It was my intention to suggest that signs indicating the distance to the border are unnecessary. Please accept my apologies for the ambiguity.

BTW, internal Schengen area borders are not just about no passport control. Stops of any sort (with limited temporary exceptions for national security) are prohibited and even reduced speed limits at the border are prohibited.
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 04:20 PM   #9884
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Oh, yes, now that I understand what you are talking about, it makes a lot of sense - don't sign small villages from hundreds of km away just because they are border points. That, IIRC, is a Polish quirk that other countries don't do.

Though the Russian, Belarusian and Ukrainian borders are not Schengen, it doesn't make much sense to sign the border point, just that the destination is across a border: Lviv with the (UA) oval makes sense, Korczora (PL) (UA) isn't worth signing (at least not from a long distance), even though the border is there.

Berlin doesn't need a (D) and so on, as that you will cross a border is of no consequence, but it isn't a problem to sign it.
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 05:57 PM   #9885
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Can anybody say, when the Strykow-Konotopa section of A2 will be tolled?
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Old May 24th, 2013, 06:13 PM   #9886
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S17/A4

GoogleMaps is quick. It already shows two new sections of S17 near Lublin and A4 near Jaroslaw which are scheduled to be open soon.

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Old May 24th, 2013, 06:18 PM   #9887
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But they arent quick with the Hungarian M3!!
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Old May 24th, 2013, 07:06 PM   #9888
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Directly related to Polish motorways:



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Use of fauna overpasses

Monitoring the use of 16 fauna passes on A4 (54 km section in western Poland) conducted since 2010 shows that overpasses are the most intensively used by wild animals, while underpasses (16-19 m with) and extended bridges over rivers are 16. and 5. times less utilised, respectively. On the film you can see videofootages taken by cameratraps installed on 6 overapasses there (35-45 m width).
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Old May 24th, 2013, 08:24 PM   #9889
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But they arent quick with the Hungarian M3!!
We used to have the same problem. Just before Euro2012 in Poland and Ukraine Google clearly speeded up with updates. Now they are usually up to date... sometimes even to fast.
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Old May 24th, 2013, 08:44 PM   #9890
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We used to have the same problem. Just before Euro2012 in Poland and Ukraine Google clearly speeded up with updates. Now they are usually up to date... sometimes even to fast.
Because Google Maps are now updated by users with Google Map Maker.
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Old May 25th, 2013, 03:29 AM   #9891
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GoogleMaps is quick. It already shows two new sections of S17 near Lublin and A4 near Jaroslaw which are scheduled to be open soon.
I don't see how being too early showing them open (when they are not yet open) could be better than being late in showing them open.
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Old May 25th, 2013, 07:05 AM   #9892
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Well it is not that clear about Google. They used to delay in showing new roads (like it was with A2) and now they are even quicker then Road Authorities opening S17. Well I do not care that much about, but people trabeling from abroad should have good and acurate traveling tool to find them selves on the map.
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Old May 25th, 2013, 07:33 PM   #9893
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S69 Bielsko-Biala - Zywiec

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31. Widok z Kalnej w stronę Żywca (ustawili 2 żurawie przy MS 14)


36. WD 15A i wykop w 21 km S69

37. WS 17, druga nitka gotowa do zabetonowania

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Na poniższych zdjęciach podbudowa, między WS-10 a węzłem Łodygowice:

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Old May 25th, 2013, 07:56 PM   #9894
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Old May 26th, 2013, 08:50 AM   #9895
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From the photos above, I don't see any chance for the S69 between Bielsko-Biala and Zywiec to open this year.
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Old May 26th, 2013, 05:53 PM   #9896
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From the photos above, I don't see any chance for the S69 between Bielsko-Biala and Zywiec to open this year.
Yes , it is true
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Old May 26th, 2013, 05:56 PM   #9897
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The General Directorate of National Roads and Motorways still claims that the S69 will be opened to the end of the year
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Old May 27th, 2013, 01:57 AM   #9898
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Concrete

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Old May 27th, 2013, 03:08 AM   #9899
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A couple of photos from 2 weeks ago while driving on the A2 from Warsaw towards DE border. It wasn't the first time I was on A2 but it was the first time I drove on the completed A2 all the way from Warsaw to DE Border. What a pleasant road to drive on. Pretty much a perfect motorway in every sense.

Sadly I didn't take any photos of the Warsaw bypass but that was quite an impressive sight.

Taken at some rest area somewhere between Warsaw and Poznan
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Noise barriers
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This is taken from a bridge right next to Poznan city boundary
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New section between Poznan and DE border surrounded by forest
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One of many passing bridges for wild animals (I assume)
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Later I took a ride from Wroclaw via Warsaw to PL/LT border much of which was on the S8. I will post some photos later.
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[QUOTE=lukaszek89;103658706]Concrete

Concrete is good!
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