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Old July 2nd, 2013, 09:05 PM   #10181
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Direcition: Baltic Sea
Direction: Mediterranean Sea
Northbound and Southbound! You forgot what cardinal directions are?!
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 11:34 AM   #10182
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I have posted this question already once and couldn't find any answer. What will happen with the not finished A1 section around Kutno (missing rest areas, bridges for local roads and exit of Kutno). Has a new tender to be done? And why was it not built to the end on the frist place. Was it only a contract with Boegl a Krysl to make it passable after the first company failed?

Another question. How will be the tolling around Czerniewice be organized? The current Amber One toll gate at Nowa Wies will stay?
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 04:26 PM   #10183
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Damn, I hate that new Google maps. They again don't show expressways in Poland when you zoom in. Find any in the image below:



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Old July 3rd, 2013, 08:19 PM   #10184
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S8 and S7

Express route's take an "S" before the number.
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 08:39 PM   #10185
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That is not the point...
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 08:44 PM   #10186
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Northbound and Southbound! You forgot what cardinal directions are?!
Baltic & Mediterranean Sea direction sounds more classy
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 08:59 PM   #10187
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Baltic & Mediterranean Sea direction sounds more classy
Exactly! One road, two seas. Perfect connection!
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 09:05 PM   #10188
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Baltic & Mediterranean Sea direction sounds more classy
But you did a mistake.. You can drive route 1 to Baltic sea (literally.. ) but driving opposite way from Zabrze, as you say to Mediterranean Sea, would lead you Praha, CZ! A1 is becoming D1 in CZ and leads to Praga. Part of A1 in Silesia is not an European Route E75 which ends in Greece at Mediterranean Sea

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Exactly! One road, two seas. Perfect connection!
One road from Zabrze leads to Praha.. If you want to go at Mediterranean Sea you need to take southbound highway in Olomouc through Brno and then through Austria or Slovenia

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Old July 3rd, 2013, 09:06 PM   #10189
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That is not the point...
Exactly!
The point is Google Maps Polska is a mess...

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Old July 3rd, 2013, 09:26 PM   #10190
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But you did a mistake.. You can drive route 1 to Baltic sea (literally.. ) but driving opposite way from Zabrze, as you say to Mediterranean Sea, would lead you Praha, CZ! A1 is becoming D1 in CZ and leads to Praga. Part of A1 in Silesia is not an European Route E75 which ends in Greece at Mediterranean Sea



One road from Zabrze leads to Praha.. If you want to go at Mediterranean Sea you need to take southbound highway in Olomouc through Brno and then through Austria or Slovenia
But you made a mistake... D1 does not go via Olomouc, not to mention that E75 does not lead the route you mention. Cheer up a bit. Someone posts nice pics here and you jump with such a ridiculous post!
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 09:40 PM   #10191
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Yea.. You are right about Olomouc I just mistaken it with how E462 goes, but doesn't change a fact that it leads to Praha and E75 DOES lead to Greece - ends in Sitia.
Sure those are nice pics but listed wrong, it's like southbound direction was signed as leading to ex Salzburg - you can still go there via this route but you need to take several others. So it's not so ridiculous, thanks anyway..

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Old July 3rd, 2013, 11:10 PM   #10192
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I don't remember it has ever been planned as S road.
Last time it was in official goverment program in late 80' early 90' then dissapeared
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 11:13 PM   #10193
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That was looooong time ago........
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 11:58 PM   #10194
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Sure those are nice pics but listed wrong, it's like southbound direction was signed as leading to ex Salzburg - you can still go there via this route but you need to take several others. So it's not so ridiculous, thanks anyway..
Well, you are right, but most drivers from Poland will not use this road to get to Praha or Olomouc, only to Italy/Croatia
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Old July 4th, 2013, 12:54 AM   #10195
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Maybe he comitted a mistake... But still all of us know what he meant, right?
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Old July 4th, 2013, 03:30 PM   #10196
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I have posted this question already once and couldn't find any answer. What will happen with the not finished A1 section around Kutno (missing rest areas, bridges for local roads and exit of Kutno). Has a new tender to be done? And why was it not built to the end on the frist place. Was it only a contract with Boegl a Krysl to make it passable after the first company failed?

Another question. How will be the tolling around Czerniewice be organized? The current Amber One toll gate at Nowa Wies will stay?
Nobody has information for this topic???
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Old July 4th, 2013, 03:40 PM   #10197
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Some update of the A1 constructions:

For the section of A1 between Strykow and Tuszyn it looks really bad. Almost nothing is moving on and the sub-contractor Strabag, responsible for bridges, is already removing their equipment from the construction site. Polimex starts already looking for a new partner.

For the section between Torun and Kowal finally we see some movement. But still it's far away of what it should be. Too less people and equipment and progress is only little.
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Old July 4th, 2013, 05:07 PM   #10198
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I have posted this question already once and couldn't find any answer. What will happen with the not finished A1 section around Kutno (missing rest areas, bridges for local roads and exit of Kutno). Has a new tender to be done? And why was it not built to the end on the frist place. Was it only a contract with Boegl a Krysl to make it passable after the first company failed?

Another question. How will be the tolling around Czerniewice be organized? The current Amber One toll gate at Nowa Wies will stay?
1. They are going to announce a tender for finishing this section. When? I guess nobody knows.
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Generalna Dyrekcja Dróg Krajowych i Autostrad: na dniach ma być ogłoszony przetarg na dokończenie prac po upadłym POLDIMie. Zakres tych prac obejmuje m.in. budowę łącznic na węźle Kutno- Wschód i dokończenie robót na MOP-ach Krzyżanów (Wschód i Zachód) oraz kilku wiaduktach nad autostradą. Jak tylko zostanie rozstrzygnięty, wyłoniony wykonawca będzie mógł niezwłocznie przystąpić do prac. Oceniamy, że cały zakres przedsięwzięcia zajmie około roku.
2. This (tolling system) is also unknown. Check out the discussion here.
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Old July 4th, 2013, 06:00 PM   #10199
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I don't understand why the new motorways and expressways in Poland have tolls. In Spain we don't have tolls in new expressways constructed since the late 80's (when we started to built motorways with money of the EU). Ok, there are some few exceptions, but very little motorways constructed since the late 80's have tolls.

It's not possible in Poland to build motorways without tolls? Poland is constructing now the largest motorways in Europe. I think it has the same situation than Spain in the 90's, it's receiving a lot of founds of EU.
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Old July 4th, 2013, 07:01 PM   #10200
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Most motorways (the so called "expressways") are tolled only for heavy trucks (>3,5t)

Only 3 routes (A1, A2, A4) are tolled for all cars.
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