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Old November 11th, 2013, 07:07 PM   #10921
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Is the S17 Lublin bypass supposed to open at the end of this month or in December?

I am not sure if only the S17 from Bogucin/Jastków up to Lublin - Sławinek is supposed to open to traffic or if the rest of Lublin bypass up to the existing S17near Świdnik is supposed to be opened at the same time?
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Old November 11th, 2013, 07:31 PM   #10922
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Is the S17 Lublin bypass supposed to open at the end of this month or in December?

I am not sure if only the S17 from Bogucin/Jastków up to Lublin - Sławinek is supposed to open to traffic or if the rest of Lublin bypass up to the existing S17near Świdnik is supposed to be opened at the same time?
The only section that is likely to open this year is the short section Felin - Zadębie (on eastern side of Lublin, between existing S17 and road 822).

The rest should be opened around June, probably all sections at the same time.
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Old November 11th, 2013, 08:29 PM   #10923
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There are no spatial plans in Poland. That's the problem
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Old November 11th, 2013, 09:45 PM   #10924
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Old November 11th, 2013, 11:39 PM   #10925
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They simply lowered the noise standards, keeping the aforementioned rules in force. So basically they will still build these barriers in the middle of nowhere, but at the same time some built-up areas will be left unprotected. One bad solution was replaced by other bad solution :roll:

If they (the government) really cared about this situation, they would have changed at least some of those regulations - e.g. distinguising between built-up areas and areas designated for future development in spatial plans and limiting noise protection only to the former would notably reduce the amount of barriers installed. But I guess that lobbysts are busy at the Ministry of Environment.
sadly lobbyists are in a nutshell one of the main reasons people feel alienated from their governments. speak to any American or Canadian about this and you'll get an earful.
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Old November 12th, 2013, 12:22 AM   #10926
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There are no spatial plans in Poland. That's the problem
I would say that's just one side of the problem. Because even if there are spatial plans enacted by the local government, the spatial policy in Poland right now is "avoid any conflicts, paint the whole sh*t brown" (brown being the default color for "low density residential area" on Polish spatial planning maps). And as designating large areas for future development makes no consequences for the government (they are not obligated to construct new roads/power lines/other infrastructure for those areas), they've been designating them like crazy during the last few years. And if you got lots of those new development areas, you get lots of noise barriers. Even if there will be no buildings really built there.
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Old November 12th, 2013, 12:08 PM   #10927
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Oh are we not going to have any more motorway / expressways openings in 2013 then?
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Old November 12th, 2013, 01:56 PM   #10928
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Oh are we not going to have any more motorway / expressways openings in 2013 then?
Possible openings:

A1 Toruń South - Włocławek West (road 62)
S8 Syców - Walichnowy (road 14)
S14/S8 Dobroń (end of existing S14) - Róża (junction S8/S14) - Rzgów (road 1)
A4 Jarosław West - Jarosław South
A4 Radymno - Ukrainian border
S17 Lublin Felin - Lublin Zadębie
61 Stawiski bypass
"Salomea - Opacz" - urban expressway in Warsaw
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Old November 12th, 2013, 02:20 PM   #10929
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Is this information wrong? Half of the section described is already completed, the other half is due to finish this year..
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Old November 12th, 2013, 02:21 PM   #10930
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http://www.theconstructionindex.co.u...r-new-motorway
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Old November 12th, 2013, 07:33 PM   #10931
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Few days ago I finally had a chance do drive the A8 Wroclaw bypass, here are few shots:




















Opole via DK94
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Old November 12th, 2013, 07:40 PM   #10932
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Lubawka on A8? That's weird. DK8 ends at Kudowa-Zdrój.
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Old November 12th, 2013, 08:02 PM   #10933
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It will depend largely on the weather. There will be more openings if the weather will remain mild.
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Old November 12th, 2013, 08:03 PM   #10934
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Lubawka on A8? That's weird. DK8 ends at Kudowa-Zdrój.
It is lack of consistency. They sign the best route to Lubawka via A4 and then DK5
But they should direct to Opole the same way via A4 rather via DK94 through Wroclaw.
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Old November 12th, 2013, 08:27 PM   #10935
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Lubawka on A8? That's weird. DK8 ends at Kudowa-Zdrój.
Can you see darker blue color to the left of Lubawka? [5] [E261] was originally written there.
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Old November 12th, 2013, 09:54 PM   #10936
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Few days ago I finally had a chance do drive the A8 Wroclaw bypass, here are few shots:
<same photos as above>
i see only sound barriers. Poles ruins their whole joy of travelling through their nice landscapes due to this insane barriers. I assume it was not cheap...
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Old November 12th, 2013, 10:02 PM   #10937
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Old November 12th, 2013, 10:09 PM   #10938
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Not much activity south of S2 yet. Isn't this under construction for a few months now?
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Old November 12th, 2013, 10:26 PM   #10939
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Technically they are still in design optimalization phase. Some minor works (like demolishing buildings) are being carried out though.
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Old November 13th, 2013, 12:39 AM   #10940
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Maybe mine is a silly question or someone have already answered it in the past.
Why polish are building lot of S-class roads and not autostradas? I mean... Main roads like S8, S5 or S3.
Other question, upgrading DK8 section from mszczonow to warszawa is already in project?
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