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Old November 13th, 2013, 06:44 AM   #10941
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Maybe mine is a silly question or someone have already answered it in the past.
Why polish are building lot of S-class roads and not autostradas?
A-class roads are more expensive than S-class roads.
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Old November 13th, 2013, 07:25 AM   #10942
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There are a couple of differences:

1. Bigger interchanges angle (S class road)
2. There are no hotels (S)
3 speed limit 120km/h (S) 140km/h (A class)
3. Tolls for vehicles below 3.5t (A)
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Old November 13th, 2013, 10:38 AM   #10943
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Highway A4 from Dębica to Rzeszów

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Old November 13th, 2013, 03:50 PM   #10944
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Meanwhile on the construction site of A1 in Łódź (Polimex-Mostostal, our "favourite" contractor):
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Obiekt BB-10 , Biuro Budowy - pomieszczenie nr 10, zbrojenie się w cierpliwość.
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Old November 13th, 2013, 03:52 PM   #10945
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What will the next motorway in Poland who will be opened?
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Old November 13th, 2013, 04:31 PM   #10946
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What will the next motorway in Poland who will be opened?
A1 Toruń - Włocławek in a month or something like that.
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Old November 13th, 2013, 04:37 PM   #10947
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And the section Radymno Korczowa?
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Old November 13th, 2013, 06:52 PM   #10948
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Possible openings:

A1 Toruń South - Włocławek West (road 62)
S8 Syców - Walichnowy (road 14)
S14/S8 Dobroń (end of existing S14) - Róża (junction S8/S14) - Rzgów (road 1)
A4 Jarosław West - Jarosław South
A4 Radymno - Ukrainian border
S17 Lublin Felin - Lublin Zadębie
61 Stawiski bypass
"Salomea - Opacz" - urban expressway in Warsaw
Oh, I forgot, there is one more section that will probably open in December:
S19 west of Rzeszów (between A4 and DK94).

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Maybe mine is a silly question or someone have already answered it in the past.
Why polish are building lot of S-class roads and not autostradas? I mean... Main roads like S8, S5 or S3.
Good question, no good answer. However, A or S doesn't really make a difference for drivers.

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Other question, upgrading DK8 section from mszczonow to warszawa is already in project?
Yes, tender for upgrading this section will be announced till the end of this year.

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A-class roads are more expensive than S-class roads.
Maybe slightly, but this is not a big difference. The statistical difference is rather caused by the fact that many "A" go through difficult terrain (like A8 with bridge over Odra, A1 in mining region of Silesia).

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There are a couple of differences:
1. Bigger interchanges angle (S class road)
What do you mean?

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2. There are no hotels (S)
Well, do we have any notable hotels on A? Hotels are planned on both S ans A.

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speed limit 120km/h (S) 140km/h (A class)
Unless our autostrada misses a hard shoulder and has speed limit of 110km/h.

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3. Tolls for vehicles below 3.5t (A)
Myth. Not all sections of A are tolled. S roads can also be tolled, they just are not at the moment.

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And the section Radymno Korczowa?
Yoy are annoying with your constant questions about this section. Probably in December, but we are not sure and we don't know the exact date.

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Old November 16th, 2013, 09:01 PM   #10949
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A4 right at the Ukrainian border, looking west. You can see trucks lined up:

This 'show-off' section is in concrete, 2x3 lanes.

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A4 z granicy na zachód


Po lewej TIRy do granicy


Od granicy na zachód do WD54














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Old November 17th, 2013, 12:52 AM   #10950
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Many years ago Germans brought their motorways to Polish border. Now Poles are leading the motorway east and bringing it to Ukrainian border.

I know that motorways at currently Polish teritory actually existed many years ago and it was a reminder of German times, but I meant motorways in actual meaning.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 03:02 AM   #10951
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Looks like a very busy border crossing or is it just Ukrainians complicating a lot?

However, great work on A4! What about Tarnów - Dębica section???
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Old November 17th, 2013, 10:27 AM   #10952
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[QUOTE=ChrisZwolle;11740429]

And why for the love of god do they sign tiny places 600 kilometers away near borders?

i mean this:




Yes I know, it is ridiculous. Showing some villages at the border on road signs. You would not believe how often me and some other people intevened. The reason for that is a stupid law written in the codex saying that the last possible place on one particular road needs to be displayed. An absolute nonsense I agree.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 04:14 PM   #10953
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It would make sense if they would but the 'UA' or 'customs' sign behind the name of the respective border village...
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Old November 17th, 2013, 04:39 PM   #10954
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This is absolutely useless... They should sign there first big town behind the border (Lviv/Lwów in this case with UA oval). Many years ago when Czech D5 motorway was completed we had the same issue, there was Rozvadov (last Czech village) on the signs in direction towards Germany but people were unsatisfied with that and it was changed to Nürnberg with D oval
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Old November 17th, 2013, 06:09 PM   #10955
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This is absolutely useless... They should sign there first big town behind the border (Lviv/Lwów in this case with UA oval).
Name of the border crossing should also be signed. Why? Because some border crossings allow only passenger car traffic, while others allow also truck traffic, and there are also crossings that allow only trucks.

This of course doesn't apply to Schengen border crossings.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 06:12 PM   #10956
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Name of the border crossing should also be signed. Why? Because some border crossings allow only passenger car traffic, while others allow also truck traffic, and there are also crossings that allow only trucks.

This of course doesn't apply to Schengen border crossings.
Poland has non-Schengen border crossings with Russia (Koenigsberg), Belarus, and Ukraine. Which crossings allow only one of cars or trucks?
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Old November 17th, 2013, 07:05 PM   #10957
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Poland has non-Schengen border crossings with Russia (Koenigsberg), Belarus, and Ukraine. Which crossings allow only one of cars or trucks?
Kukuryki (DK68) - trucks
Zosin (DK74) - passenger cars
Połwce (DK66) - passenger cars and only for PL and BY citizens
Sławatycze (DK63) - passenger cars and buses

Some other also have limitations (like truck weight)

I agree that showing these places on distance signs is ridiculous, especially hundreds kilometres ahead, however they should stay on direction signs.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 07:07 PM   #10958
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Poland has non-Schengen border crossings with Russia (Koenigsberg), Belarus, and Ukraine. Which crossings allow only one of cars or trucks?
There are two entrances from Terespol to Brest (BY), one via A2, only for cars, arriving to the centre of Brest, one via A68, arriving to the M1 bypass.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 07:09 PM   #10959
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When the A4 motorway between Radymno and Korczowa eventually opens won't there be huge queues of traffic and jams of lorries, cars and trucks waiting to cross into Ukraine? Surely this will cause no end of tailbacks far back further up the motorway?
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Old November 17th, 2013, 07:17 PM   #10960
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When the A4 motorway between Radymno and Korczowa eventually opens won't there be huge queues of traffic and jams of lorries, cars and trucks waiting to cross into Ukraine? Surely this will cause no end of tailbacks far back further up the motorway?
It's a 17km long distance, so the Ukraians should strike or have a bank holiday to get such a long queue. At Medyka I have rarely seen long ques of lorries, perhaps only cars are allowed there?
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