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Old November 19th, 2013, 10:15 PM   #10981
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And why for the love of god do they sign tiny places 600 kilometers away near borders?

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Yes I know, it is ridiculous. Showing some villages at the border on road signs. You would not believe how often me and some other people intevened. The reason for that is a stupid law written in the codex saying that the last possible place on one particular road needs to be displayed. An absolute nonsense I agree.
I think there can be the name of the border village, but should be a sign ZOLL/DOUANE after the name. Then you know that this is border. This is non Schengen border, so its name is on transport documents and visa stamps.
The first large city behind the border should be on sign also.
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Old November 20th, 2013, 02:00 AM   #10982
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actually you are right saying that Korczowa is a border village between Poland and Ukraine
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Old November 20th, 2013, 02:00 PM   #10983
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S3: Gorzów Wlkp. - Międzyrzecz
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Old November 20th, 2013, 02:16 PM   #10984
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What is up with the huge amount of noise barriers? It runs through unpopulated area that does not seem to be a natura-2000 area.
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Old November 20th, 2013, 02:21 PM   #10985
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S3: Gorzów Wlkp. - Międzyrzecz
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Beautiful cross section of the road. You can see how much there are necessary sound barriers. Despite the fact that the road is in the trench.
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Old November 20th, 2013, 02:37 PM   #10986
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What is up with the huge amount of noise barriers?
Is a large amount? The relative issue. At the 37.6 km route will be 12.6 km (6.3 km / side) of noise barriers, of which less than half will be higher than 2 m.

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Beautiful cross section of the road. You can see how much there are necessary sound barriers. Despite the fact that the road is in the trench.
At this picture will be no noise barriers, but chiropterological nets like these.
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Old November 20th, 2013, 02:46 PM   #10987
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Yes, unpopulated
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Old November 20th, 2013, 03:30 PM   #10988
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Here will be noise barriers 2 m high (at 2 ecoducts) along... 360 m (180 m / side).
Large amount.
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Old November 20th, 2013, 03:34 PM   #10989
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Then what is this?


I don't get it, they put great attention to designing bridges, yet regular motorways seems to have no landscape plan at all.
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Old November 20th, 2013, 03:35 PM   #10990
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This is real nightmare...
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Old November 20th, 2013, 03:38 PM   #10991
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Furthermore they are not transparent... extremely boring to drive along the new motorways...

And from a landscaping point of view it is extremely controversial... not a good design for sure.
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Old November 20th, 2013, 03:39 PM   #10992
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Then what is this?
6 posts back.
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Old November 20th, 2013, 03:42 PM   #10993
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Well, these nets appear almost the same as noise barriers at 120 km/h. Why are these necessary anyway, I've never seem them elsewhere in Europe.
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Old November 20th, 2013, 03:49 PM   #10994
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Well, these nets appear almost the same as noise barriers at 120 km/h.
Sure? From personal experience, better visibility than with a fully transparent noise barriers.

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Why are these necessary anyway, I've never seem them elsewhere in Europe.
Nietoperek nature reserve, the largest bat reserve in Europe.
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Old November 20th, 2013, 03:54 PM   #10995
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THIS MA532:
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Wrzucam parę zdjęć MA532 z czwartku.

1. Widok od strony Gliwic.


2. Zbliżenie na łącznicę.


3. Montaż elementów odbywał się z 6 podnosnikow naraz.


4.


5. Widok od południa


6. Dylatacja od strony Gorzyczek


7.


8. Poza MA532 trwało wykaszanie traw.


Ogólnie powoli do przodu.
Also - today was announced the name of new Minister of Transport. New minister is Elzbieta Bienkowska (Minister of Regional Development). Both ministries will be connected. She also became deputy prime minister.
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Old November 20th, 2013, 04:00 PM   #10996
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Sure? From personal experience, better visibility than with a fully transparent noise barriers.
Yes, close by you can look through it, in the distance, they become one solid screen, totally ruining the landscape and view.

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Nietoperek nature reserve, the largest bat reserve in Europe.
I've read that before... in another country. Anyway, is this really necessary, or is it just a way to avoid appeals and complaints at all cost? This looks like a motorway built through a zoo. Bats live elsewhere in Europe as well, where you don't see excessive nets like these. All you need is some proper guidance over the motorway for bats, using natural elements in the landscape (such as tree lines). Further north on S3 there is a bat gantry over the motorway, wasn't that possible here?
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Old November 20th, 2013, 04:41 PM   #10997
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Yes, close by you can look through it, in the distance, they become one solid screen, totally ruining the landscape and view.
In this case, can it be seen from a distance?

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Anyway, is this really necessary, or is it just a way to avoid appeals and complaints at all cost?
I'm not a chiropterologist, so I don't know.

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Bats live elsewhere in Europe as well, where you don't see excessive nets like these.
Perhaps because there aren't 30,000 bats and then not thought about their protection.
Lest there, I'm not an ecologist (neither an ecoterrorist).

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Further north on S3 there is a bat gantry over the motorway, wasn't that possible here?
Maybe they are ineffective and stopped to apply. Instead, these nets are used.
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Old November 20th, 2013, 04:50 PM   #10998
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Have they repaired the infamous bridge MA532 on the A1 at Mszana yet?
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Old November 20th, 2013, 05:26 PM   #10999
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The German statistic contains only overpasses .
Dutch too, including underpasses the Netherlands boasts over 600 wildlife crossings. Near Crailo they have built the longest wildlife overpass in the world (800m) btw.
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Old November 20th, 2013, 05:34 PM   #11000
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Nah, the figure of 800 meters is inflated. The ecoduct consists mostly of embankments and two bridge structures of 35 m and 135 m.

location: http://goo.gl/maps/2mdjW
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