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Old April 7th, 2014, 09:51 AM   #11801
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Does anyone know how exactly they plan to build the A1 between Piotrkow Trybunalski and Czestochowa? It seems to me that traffic is too heavy to divert both directions onto one carriageway while they rebuild the other.
There is no other option - they modernised S8 the same way.
But remember that there is a parallel route - DK91, which can handle some of the traffic, so it won't be that bad.
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Old April 7th, 2014, 10:11 AM   #11802
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There is no other option - they modernised S8 the same way.
But remember that there is a parallel route - DK91, which can handle some of the traffic, so it won't be that bad.
I remember what a complete mess the route was during S8 construction. If they shift all the trucks onto the DK91 during construction of the first new carriageway, perhaps they could allow 2+2 with narrow lanes on the other old carriageway. Once the first new carriageway has been completed, that should support wider 2+2 lanes so they could allow the trucks back.

There is an alternative. They could construct the first new carriageway immediately adjacent to the existing road. Then remove both the old carriageways and build the second new carriageway. They could even open the first new carriageway one-way with it's final lane layout and remove only the furthest carriageway to build the new second carriageway. Then, finally, remove the remaining old carriageway from between the two new carriageways after both have been completed. That would result in a wide median with ample space to add a fourth lane in the future.
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Old April 7th, 2014, 07:29 PM   #11803
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No, they do not need to have and may not use viaBOX on concession companies sections.
Read it (left frame):
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Old April 7th, 2014, 09:03 PM   #11804
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I remember what a complete mess the route was during S8 construction. If they shift all the trucks onto the DK91 during construction of the first new carriageway, perhaps they could allow 2+2 with narrow lanes on the other old carriageway. Once the first new carriageway has been completed, that should support wider 2+2 lanes so they could allow the trucks back. There is an alternative. They could construct the first new carriageway immediately adjacent to the existing road. Then remove both the old carriageways and build the second new carriageway. They could even open the first new carriageway one-way with it's final lane layout and remove only the furthest carriageway to build the new second carriageway. Then, finally, remove the remaining old carriageway from between the two new carriageways after both have been completed. That would result in a wide median with ample space to add a fourth lane in the future.
While rebuilding S8 i remember works for 80km! It would be also good, in my opinion, building first intersections (Czestochowa,Kamiensk,Radomsko) and then rebuild section by section. The longest would be Czestochowa-Radomsko, almost 40km. One carriageway for rebuilding, one for cars, trucks on DK91. But I think trucks re-route on DK91 would be a nightmare for people living along that road
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Old April 8th, 2014, 04:11 AM   #11805
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Read it (left frame):
http://www.viatoll.pl/en
This website applies only to roads managed by GDDKiA ("viaTOLL network"). http://www.viatoll.pl/en/heavy-vehicles/map

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Old April 8th, 2014, 12:34 PM   #11806
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Nice picture of the Sośnica Interchange (A1 & A4)



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Old April 8th, 2014, 04:33 PM   #11807
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Janek0 You're right . My mistake.
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Old April 8th, 2014, 07:18 PM   #11808
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New sections of motorways and expressways & bypasses of national roads realized over the years 2014–2020

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Old April 9th, 2014, 02:40 PM   #11809
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Southern quarter of Łódź ringroad (S8 & S14) will open this Friday.
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Old April 9th, 2014, 07:21 PM   #11810
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Driving in the Silesian metropolis:


0:00 - streets of Gliwice
1:47 - streets of Zabrze
2:35 - DTŚ expressway (DW902)
4:04 - streets of Chorzów
4:53 - DK79 Katowice - Chorzów - Bytom
5:54 - DW911 Bytom ringroad
6:21 - "Piekary Śląskie" interchange
6:34 - A1 motorway
6:45 - "Bytom" interchange
6:54 - streets of Bytom
8:01 - DK78 Bytom - Tarnowskie Góry

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Old April 9th, 2014, 08:22 PM   #11811
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The Famous GDDKia court case in Dublin has finally been reported.

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Old April 9th, 2014, 08:33 PM   #11812
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Do I understand right? In 2019 A4 from Wrocław to Zgorzelec will be modernised to 2x3?



http://wroclaw.gazeta.pl/wroclaw/1,8...iedem_lat.html



Silesian Metropolis will get new bypass- A4-bis?



http://katowice.gazeta.pl/katowice/1...utostrada.html
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Old April 9th, 2014, 09:10 PM   #11813
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Do I understand right? In 2019 A4 from Wrocław to Zgorzelec will be modernised to 2x3?
2x3 will probably be only on section Wrocław - Legnica or even shorter - Wrocław - Kostomłoty. But 2019 doesn't seem realistic.

Silesian Metropolis will get new bypass- A4-bis?[/QUOTE]Yes. In 30 years or so At the moment it is science-fiction.
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Old April 10th, 2014, 05:14 PM   #11814
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S12/17/19 Lublin bypass under construction status:

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angielski wersja alfa P.S. Zastanawiałem się nad zaproponowanym wyszczególnieniem prac przy obiektach inżynierskich i sam nie wiem czy na tym etapie prac nad obwodnicą ma to jeszcze sens. W przypadku ZOL nie mam wątpliwości, że ma sens.
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Old April 10th, 2014, 05:15 PM   #11815
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Are those the official exit names to appear on the signs?
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Old April 10th, 2014, 06:53 PM   #11816
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Yes.
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Old April 11th, 2014, 08:18 PM   #11817
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Oh man, the powers that be need to take this noise barrier circus more serious. If this goes on the whole country disappears behind noise barriers. Such a shame.

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DW786 po przebudowie. Odcinek Promnik - Micigózd. Przyjrzyjmy się ekranom.

1. Zielone to ekrany. Czerwone - początki OZ. Czarne - końce OZ. Jak widać cała wschodnia strona pomiędzy miejscowościami ma ekrany mimo, że jest to około 800 metrów obszaru niezabudowanego. Orientacja mapy prawidłowa. Na dole południe.


2. Zobaczmy jak to wygląda w praktyce. Jadę w kierunku południowym


3. Koniec OZ - po prawej zaczynają się ekrany. Za nimi pustka.


4. Jestem teraz u końca ekranów po prawej widocznych ze zdjęci powyżej. Patrzę na zachód.


5. Idę tam. Chcę się mylić i zobaczyć, że te ekrany coś chronią. Patrzę na północ.


6. Patrzę na południe. Te domy daleko nie leżą wzdłuż tej drogi tylko poprzecznej. Oddalone o około 600 metrów.


7. Jadę dalej.


8. Tutaj rozpoczyna się Micigózd. Obszar zabudowany w 90% po prawej stronie co widać na poniższym zdjęciu.


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Old April 11th, 2014, 10:24 PM   #11818
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Old April 11th, 2014, 11:31 PM   #11819
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Old April 12th, 2014, 12:07 AM   #11820
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