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Old May 6th, 2014, 03:58 AM   #11961
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I drive an Audi TT. It's not a wreck. It's well maintained. Yes, I spend over 2000 euro, on average, per year on repairs and maintenance. Last year was over 5000 euro, but that was exceptional because one part cost 3500 euro.
Blimey, what costs so much to keep it on the road?

My car is serviced once a year and I've spent around 1500zl on parts in 5 years. I do have an unbelievably boring Opel Astra though
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Old May 6th, 2014, 04:03 AM   #11962
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Blimey, what costs so much to keep it on the road?
The 3500 euro part that needed to be replaced last year was the 4WD differential. Twice a year, I take it to the Audi service centre and they switch the tyres/wheels between summer and winter, inspect everything, and replace everything that needs to be replaced. It's not just about keeping it on the road. It's about keeping it safe to drive 200 kmh.
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Old May 6th, 2014, 12:29 PM   #11963
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Lmfao i've never driven even 180km/h


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Old May 6th, 2014, 09:35 PM   #11964
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A week is a long time in road building, gobsmacking progress since last week.
In case you have not done it already, it looks like it may be time to get the champagne and put it in the fridge.

Today's picture by the equally amazing and reliable wawrzula:


Copyright wawrzula (taken on 6 May 2014)


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Old May 6th, 2014, 11:07 PM   #11965
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MAG, thank you!

It really is a beautiful bridge, and I think all this trouble was worth it. I'm looking forward to driving over it!
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Old May 7th, 2014, 12:30 PM   #11966
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Several days before the opening...

S3: Gorzów Wlkp. - Międzyrzecz
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Old May 7th, 2014, 12:46 PM   #11967
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Do they plan to open it this weekend?
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Old May 7th, 2014, 12:57 PM   #11968
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Next week(mid).
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Old May 7th, 2014, 03:23 PM   #11969
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Mełgiewska street in Lublin - one of accesses to Lublin bypass:

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Old May 7th, 2014, 03:26 PM   #11970
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^ Haha they still use those ancient Autosan buses there ?


I remember from 2000 ish or 1999 or so, that they were already falling apart, everything shook in those buses. Didn't expect those driving wrecks to still be used !
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Old May 7th, 2014, 03:27 PM   #11971
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They are unbreakable.
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Old May 7th, 2014, 03:28 PM   #11972
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They are unbreakable.
They didn't feel that way from inside . Terrible terrible comfort and constant noise from all the ''loose'' panels and stuff.
I'm spoiled though, my local public transport company here uses only Mercedes and quite new ones at that.

Funny to see though! Been more that a decade since I visited Lublin, I usually didn't go further than Garwolin ( where half my family lives).
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Old May 7th, 2014, 03:38 PM   #11973
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^ Haha they still use those ancient Autosan buses there ?


I remember from 2000 ish or 1999 or so, that they were already falling apart, everything shook in those buses. Didn't expect those driving wrecks to still be used !
They are indestructible and still used in suburban lines (not only near Lublin). But now Autosan makes much modern city buses:

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Old May 7th, 2014, 03:56 PM   #11974
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They are slowly disappearing, being replaced by newer ones. In 5 years there will be none.
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Old May 8th, 2014, 01:06 AM   #11975
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Great pictures
I remember passing those Autosan on the roads in the countryside, with the engine cover propped open to not overheat
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Old May 8th, 2014, 01:54 AM   #11976
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Autosans H9 have transported millions of passangers through 41 years of their exploatation, so respect for this machine








New bridge through Vistula river in Kamień (former bridge in this place was destroyed during II World War in 1939 - Poland needed seventy five years and EU funds to reconstruct it...)




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Another access for Lublin bypass (Aleja Solidarności) and.... another Autosan H9

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Old May 8th, 2014, 12:01 PM   #11977
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Have you driven on DK7 between Warsaw and Gdańsk? There have been some measures taken to make it safer plus there's more and more sections upgraded to 2x2 expressway, but it used to be a really traumatic experience (at least for the less experienced drivers) to drive this route. There was an informal third lane in the middle, people were overtaking like that pretty much all the time, sometimes four cars had to squeeze because two idiots coming in different directions met in the middle:


It's much, much better now, but still many drivers prefer to take the longer, but in their mind much safer route through Toruń (either A2+A1 or from Płońsk through DK10).
This is the kind of behavior you typically find in Poland, especially in summer during bank holidays, where there is a lot of traffic on major 2 lanes roads with lot of frustrated and aggressive drivers.

Still, It's surprising why no one never thought in Poland to improve existing DK roads, since we'll have to wait for at least another decade to see the 2X2 "S" roads being finished between major towns. In this matter, a 2+1 configuration will be optimal, as it won't need massive changes to the existing one, which is already 9-12 meters wide on most parts. As a matter of fact, in Sweden you'll find those 2+1 on roads with much less traffic than in Poland, and in remote areas, which in effect improved road safety dramatically.
So, until they'll finish their (slowly) growing and costly 2X2 road network; wouldn't be good if they start to secure their very dangerous, unsuited to today's traffic, and most of all, knowing Polish driver's habits, main roads, at least to save a few hundreds (even thousands) of lives each year ?


Swedish 2+1 road with median barrier.


Configuration of 2+1 Swedish roads alternating.

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But we've got 2+1 alternating configuraion - just very rarely.
E.g. DK50 between DK8 and A2. DK7 somewhere south of Kielce. These are the two I know about for shure.
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Old May 8th, 2014, 12:20 PM   #11979
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To be honest I don't see the current DK roads as a problem, they will improve when they are not over-capacity/over-used.

Of course people get frustrated with speeds only reaching 60-70 km/h during busier days, with loads of standstill jams at random.

If there is a 2x2 lane alternative nearby, then there's no problem.
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Old May 8th, 2014, 01:54 PM   #11980
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It's surprising why no one never thought in Poland to improve existing DK roads, since we'll have to wait for at least another decade to see the 2X2 "S" roads being finished between major towns. In this matter, a 2+1 configuration will be optimal, as it won't need massive changes to the existing one, which is already 9-12 meters wide on most parts. As a matter of fact, in Sweden you'll find those 2+1 on roads with much less traffic than in Poland, and in remote areas, which in effect improved road safety dramatically.
So, until they'll finish their (slowly) growing and costly 2X2 road network; wouldn't be good if they start to secure their very dangerous, unsuited to today's traffic, and most of all, knowing Polish driver's habits, main roads, at least to save a few hundreds (even thousands) of lives each year ?
1. There have been lots of safety improvements to DK roads.
2. I think the rate of construction of A-class and S-class roads in Poland is remarkably fast, though of course we would like it to be faster.
3. In most cases, the money spent converting DK roads to 2+1 would be wasted because traffic levels often already exceed the reasonable capacity of 2+1 roads.

In my opinion, the current allocation of available funds between safety improvements for DK roads and construction of new A-class and S-class roads is somewhere near optimal.
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