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Old May 17th, 2014, 10:34 PM   #12041
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Again, this is due to the population size of Poland (more than 38 million people). The per capita figures are very different.

€ 106 billion sounds like an extreme amount of money, but

* is a gross budget (including the contribution of Poland to the EU)
* is over a 7-year period
* is 3% of current annual GDP (net)

The Dutch government spends that kind of money in 5 months.
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Old May 17th, 2014, 10:50 PM   #12042
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The Dutch government spends that kind of money in 5 months.
So why almost every road work, motorways/expressways, constructions, trains and stations, renovations, etc. has the EU fund contribution panel displayed on their site; if it's only "peanuts", maybe better to stop all these EU funds as it will affect "very very little"?
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Old May 17th, 2014, 10:55 PM   #12043
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I'm not claiming that, just pointing out the huge amounts of money must be seen in context. EU funding certainly has a positive impact on Poland, but also on other EU countries as trade with Poland continues to increase due to the high demand of goods in Poland. Therefore, economic growth of Poland also benefits other EU members. For example, Dutch exports to Poland increased by nearly 30% since the start of the recession.
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Old May 17th, 2014, 11:44 PM   #12044
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Paying 1€ to receive 5€ from EU in exchange; now we know who is the
"biggest beneficiary of EU funds"

It's Poland!
Cheap labour and subcontractors, 38 mln open market for developed foreign manufacturers and traders, law regulations that force Polish government and business to spend money on certain purposes.

Giving Poland some money it's not a mercy of west European countries. It's a great, lucrative investment for them.
At the end of political and economic changes Poland will become boring, stable, cooperative country which will increase safety of European countries.

EU funds is a good thing for Poland but even better for donators (investors).
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Old May 18th, 2014, 12:13 AM   #12045
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Over the next six years Poland will be the biggest EU funds beneficiary among all the member states, not only the biggest beneficiary of the Cohesion funds alone as has been the case so far.
That has been known for months and has often been mentioned around this forum ( not just in this thread) . I don't see what is controversial about it given Polands 'absorbtion capacity' ...a proxy for compliance with EU rules.

Poland can absorb twice as much of its allocation as Romania. To put it in perspective if Poland is allocated €103bn across all funds ( Cohesion/ Social etc) it would be expected to net €60bn+ ....Romania would net less than €30bn out of €103bn based on past performance.

Poland did rather well during the last 7 year funding plan too.

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Old May 18th, 2014, 04:30 PM   #12046
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Unfortunately, there has not been much progress in the last week in completing construction work on viaduct MA-532 (southern A1) due to adverse weather conditions affecting this part of Central Europe. We’ve had a fair bit of incessant rain with flooding taking place near larger rivers.

Nevertheless, the surface course has been put down and compacted on MA-532, so at least we are moving in the right direction, one step at a time. The good news is that this coming week we expect much drier weather in southern Poland, so there is high expectation that road markings will be painted any day now. After that, it is really down to securing relevant conformance and release certificates and then, finally, off we go.



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Old May 19th, 2014, 11:17 AM   #12047
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Oh dear I fear that these floods in the Małopolska region of Poland will delay major and priority projects even further now

For example the A4 Tarnów - Dębica
(scheduled for opening Nov 2014) and the S69 Bielsko Biała - Żywiec

However these floods are typical at this time of year in Poland
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Old May 19th, 2014, 01:16 PM   #12048
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For now there was no major damage in Lubella region (Lublin's S17/S19 bypass I mean).

Not sure about the very south of Poland though.
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Old May 19th, 2014, 01:36 PM   #12049
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Looks like they are going to paint road markings this week, if the weather holds up. As you can see, guidelines are already done, so fingers crossed.

I am getting my crate of beer and barbecue supplies sorted out today, so I don't miss out on the big day.



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Old May 19th, 2014, 01:53 PM   #12050
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I am sure a lot of people will be celebrating when the Mszana bridge (MA-532) finally opens to traffic especially those affected by heavy traffic on the current diversionary route

As a side note Mota Engil” Kraków i „Himmel & Papesch” Opole have both been chosen to build the Nysa ring road (DK46) which is due for completion in 2017

http://www.gddkia.gov.pl/pl/a/15015/...obwodnicy-Nysy
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Old May 20th, 2014, 07:36 PM   #12051
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So apparently the Mszana bridge will be opened this Friday.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 10:11 AM   #12052
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So apparently the Mszana bridge will be opened this Friday.
I'll believe that when I see it. That means they must have done the line painting on the road surface then
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Old May 21st, 2014, 11:09 AM   #12053
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Old May 21st, 2014, 07:49 PM   #12054
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So apparently the Mszana bridge will be opened this Friday.
That would be great ! As I should be driving there next week .
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Old May 21st, 2014, 09:19 PM   #12055
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Looks like they are going to paint road markings this week, if the weather holds up. As you can see, guidelines are already done, so fingers crossed.

I am getting my crate of beer and barbecue supplies sorted out today, so I don't miss out on the big day.



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Old May 21st, 2014, 09:33 PM   #12056
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How do they decide what colors bridges get? Some are really kindergarten.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 11:27 PM   #12057
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us Poles like very slutty colours for some reason, I don't get it, it's like going to a Polish wedding in the 90's, oy!
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 01:38 AM   #12058
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The use of the red and white reflector sticks instead of the black and white sticks elsewhere in Europe makes up for it
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 12:22 PM   #12059
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How do they decide what colors bridges get? Some are really kindergarten.
Slovak designers.
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 04:56 PM   #12060
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Why do you think it`s because of Slovak designers?
I think it happened (and will be_upgraded) because of grey world in Poland during communist time, and Poles want to compensate this time. What`s more, the bridges are not the biggest problem. Take a look on colours palette of upgraded commieblocks
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