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Old July 22nd, 2014, 03:21 PM   #12281
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Łask mayor with support of the Police apparently fears congestion in the town after opening of this section without the next section. However, this is unofficial report from jozin z bazin.

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Jeśli chodzi o otwarcie odcinka Łask-Róża, to nie zostanie on otwarty do momentu ukończenia co najmniej odcinka do Karsznic lub też nawet do węzła Zd. Wola. Protest wniósł Burmistrz Łasku przy poparciu Policji, a uzasadnieniem ich protestu była wizja totalnego zakorkowania Łasku.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 03:44 PM   #12282
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Maybe he is afraid of constant crashes
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 04:23 PM   #12283
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No, he expects city traffic jam, all and every day
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 04:58 PM   #12284
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Opening the completed section of the S8 east of Łask would change traffic patterns in the town, but probably would not increase overall traffic nor should it be expected to cause traffic jams after drivers get used to it. There would be a new equilibrium.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 05:11 PM   #12285
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This section won`t influence transit traffic, just the local. To improve local (in area of Łask, Sieradz etc.) and transit traffic, all sections of S8 between Wrocław and Łódź must be opened. Hoping it`s gonna happen early autumn.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 05:14 PM   #12286
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Perhaps the mayor is Łask is waiting for whole S8 from the Wieluń exit (or Walichnowy exit whichever you prefer) to Róża to open end of this year/middle of 2015

He does have a point though as through traffic through Łask would not suddenly decrease with the opening of the section between Łask and Róża as traffic would still need to go through the Łask to access the S8 and vice versa for traffic coming off S8 heading to Sieradz and eventually back onto the S8 at the Walichnowy exit
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 05:28 PM   #12287
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This section won`t influence transit traffic, just the local. To improve local (in area of Łask, Sieradz etc.) and transit traffic, all sections of S8 between Wrocław and Łódź must be opened. Hoping it`s gonna happen early autumn.
Is an autumn opening for the S8 between Wrocław and Łódź realistic though?
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 05:28 PM   #12288
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This section won`t influence transit traffic, just the local.
The transit traffic would take a different route through Łask.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 05:45 PM   #12289
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Which one? No kidding...
There is only DK12 and DK14
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 06:09 PM   #12290
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Which one? No kidding...
There is only DK12 and DK14
On the east side of Łask, a lot of traffic would switch from DK14 to DK12. This would increase traffic on the city streets 9 Maja and Warszawska.
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 12:53 AM   #12291
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As I said, the transit traffic can choose only DK12 and DK14 in Łask. Both roads are overloaded. Both meet at crossroads with traffic lights what causes traffic jams. Btw, there is another traffic lights causes the same.

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Is an autumn opening for the S8 between Wrocław and Łódź realistic though?
Yes, there is realistic, but not for sure will happen.
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 01:43 PM   #12292
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Yesterday, a contract for construction of eastern part of Kraków ringroad (S7) was signed (with Strabag). The stretch will have 3 lanes on each carriageway and includes a 700m long bridge over Vistula river.


S7: Kraków-Igołomska – Kraków-Rybitwy 12 4.5km (August 2014 to July 2017) – project – map

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Old July 23rd, 2014, 03:21 PM   #12293
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The S7 bridge over the Wisla river does fit in rather well with the grey concrete brutal architecture of nearby Nowa Huta
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 03:33 PM   #12294
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S7: Kraków-Igołomska – Kraków-Rybitwy 12 4.5km (August 2014 to July 2017) – project – map

Is it up-to-date viz? Design was to be optimized, as I remember.
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 06:45 PM   #12295
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Yesterday, a contract for construction of eastern part of Kraków ringroad (S7) was signed.
When completed, this will significantly relieve congestion inside Krakow, much of which is due to congestion over the existing bridges.
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 08:50 PM   #12296
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So has Łask (DK12) to Róża (S14) opened yet?
No. http://mapa.targeo.pl/,24,19.2135800,51.5944800?ln=en
31th July 2014? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nie-hetman.png
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 09:09 PM   #12297
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... is just as likely as any other date from today to winter
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Old July 24th, 2014, 11:46 AM   #12298
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... is just as likely as any other date from today to winter
Yeah this table https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nie-hetman.png isn't set in stone and definitive
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Old July 24th, 2014, 12:06 PM   #12299
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Old July 24th, 2014, 01:11 PM   #12300
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Broken link.
Best use MichiH's post for the hyperlink that one works fine
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