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Old August 23rd, 2014, 07:16 PM   #12501
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why do they have sound barriers in middle of nowhere?
They are to protect the trees from being awakened. The likelihood of the trees being awakened are small, but the consequences could be devastating.
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Old August 23rd, 2014, 07:31 PM   #12502
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why do they have sound barriers in middle of nowhere?
You can't tell if it is a "middle of nowhere" just by looking at this photo, there may be houses nearby.

(But there indeed are many places with sound barriers in the middle of nowhere.)
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Old August 24th, 2014, 03:15 PM   #12503
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Sound barriers on the photo I posted seems to be there to protect the service area.

Even if there is rationale for that (a little bit doubtful but, let say, we can accept it) in places like that safety and visibility should have an absolute priority.

If we really have to have barriers in places like that they should be transparent.
Unfortunately they would still obstruct the sight lines as they will be dirty like hell after the first winter. That's why I would be really careful in placing them in such locations.

Sometimes I think that teams which design those roads don't talk to each other. Guys who design the bridges don't talk to the guys who design the embankments and neither of them talk to the guy who design the noise barrier. And guy who design signage must be living on separate planet.

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Old August 24th, 2014, 04:00 PM   #12504
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why do they have sound barriers in middle of nowhere?
Because in Poland some ppl makes a lot of money with these sound barriers
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Old August 24th, 2014, 04:05 PM   #12505
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Don`t think so... that`s because some time ago PL wanted to be more european than EU
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Old August 24th, 2014, 04:17 PM   #12506
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It hasn't got anything to do with a lens. The road disappears for a couple of metres 200 m in front of the camera. And that from a camera position 5 or 6 metres above said carriageway. From a drivers position the sight-line is even worse and certainly not fit for a motorway.
Not to speak of the terrible impression which wavy gradient of the section behind the curve leaves.
From a drivers position? First of all nobody drove that place yet so you are not in driver position yet to tell how it is in reality. Secondly you need to understand how prospective changes by using long telephoto lens. Long linear object like roads get "shorter" so that short bumpy curve in the picture is in fact much longer and much smoother curve. That road below also looks looks so badly build but in fact it is not. Cheers.
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Old August 24th, 2014, 06:19 PM   #12507
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A nice comparison from Lublin: September 2012 - April 2014

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Stwierdzenie "dawno i niedawno" nabiera tutaj trochę innego znaczenia

Przedłużenie al. Solidarności, widok z ul. Głównej na trasę w kierunku do miasta.

1. wrzesień 2012


2. Kwiecień 2014

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...681732&page=36
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Old August 24th, 2014, 06:55 PM   #12508
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Damn dat noise barrier looks high as high.
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Old August 24th, 2014, 07:33 PM   #12509
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Again the sound barrier is there without no reasson.
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Old August 24th, 2014, 08:08 PM   #12510
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A4 "Kostomłoty"

I took this picture last Monday about 14:00 hrs near "kostomłoty" exit. Westbound view.
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Old August 24th, 2014, 08:52 PM   #12511
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I'm surprised to see the A4 so busy west of Wroclaw. It will need to be widened to 2x3 before Ukraine joins the EU.

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Old August 24th, 2014, 09:43 PM   #12512
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New DK8/DK61 interchange in Augustów. And look, there are no border villages on the signage!

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Old August 24th, 2014, 10:56 PM   #12513
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I'm still not sure whether I like the local name rather than the Polish name going on signs. Then again, would anyone non-Polish know where Kowno was?

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I'm surprised to see the A4 so busy west of Wroclaw. It will need to be widened to 2x3 before Ukraine joins the EU.
I don't see Ukraine ever joining, but rather having something similar to Turkey in the long run. It's just too big to deal with, and can you imagine applying the CAP there?

But yeah, the A4 is like that all the time these days. I'm pretty sure the mess at the toll booths on the A4 are the reason why the GDDKiA are considering electronic tolling, as queues frequently extend to the A8/S8 junction with the A4.

The A4 west of Boleslawiec is still absolutely empty, though.

As for expanding it to 2x3, as far as I know, the only plan is to put hard shoulders in as well as closing some junctions in order to toll it. An interesting question will be whether they'll toll from the A8 to the future S3 or not.
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Old August 24th, 2014, 11:03 PM   #12514
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An interesting question will be whether they'll toll from the A8 to the future S3 or not.
Yes, after upgrade.
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Old August 24th, 2014, 11:16 PM   #12515
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New DK8/DK61 interchange in Augustów. And look, there are no border villages on the signage!
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Old August 25th, 2014, 01:04 AM   #12516
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I don't see Ukraine ever joining, but rather having something similar to Turkey in the long run. It's just too big to deal with, and can you imagine applying the CAP there?
Germany, France, UK, Italy, and Spain each have a greater population than Ukraine. The CAP is unsustainable and will anyway have to be abandoned (at least in it's current socialist form) if the Doha Round at the WTO succeeds. Turkey hasn't joined because for the last ten years they have been moving away from the Principles defined in the TEU.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 04:19 AM   #12517
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When we can expect works on second carriageway of a S22 ?
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Old August 25th, 2014, 11:29 AM   #12518
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When we can expect works on second carriageway of a S22 ?
I guess not before 2030 unless Kaliningrad becomes independent from Russia.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 11:32 AM   #12519
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When we can expect works on second carriageway of a S22 ?
Probably never.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 03:39 PM   #12520
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Probably never.
The future lasts a long time. Eventually, we'll probably see part or even all of the DK22 west of the S7 upgraded to 2x2 S22. However, almost certainly not before about 2030.
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