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Old August 26th, 2014, 01:20 PM   #12541
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But if you consider dual carriageway roads we had couple of them too. Some longer one of them were: mentioned already Gierkowka between Warszawa and Katowice, Warszawa-Grojec, Warszawa-Modlin, Gdansk-Sopot-Gdynia bypass, Podwarpie-Myslowice-Tychy (todays S1) and then to Bielsko-Biala and Cieszyn, Katowice-Zory-Skoczow-Wisla, Katowice-Sosnowiec(today S86), Krakow-Myslenice, dabrowa Gornicza-Olkusz, Poznan-Wrzesnia, Lublin-Piaski, Szczecin-Goleniow... etc,etc
That's exactly was I had in mind! So these dual-carriageway DK roads were built to primarily serve commuter traffic around big cities, since there weren't many cars on long-distance routes. The length of roads you mentioned is really not negligible, if you have in mind that its standard was pretty high (having hard shoulders, slight curves...), which cannot be seen in some other countries (like in Croatia where terrain is rough and all main roads were built in a single 1x2 profile, except in and around bigger cities)
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Old August 26th, 2014, 03:37 PM   #12542
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At that time we had as I remember only two fully open borders for international traffic between Poland and Soviet Union: Medyka and Terespol. There were few other border crossings but open only to people from eastern block like Kuznica.
What was interesting about that era was how few border crossings existed in general. Both Dorohusk and Hrebenne only opened in the early 90's, and many others didn't come into being until slightly later.

I found one reference saying that there was no border crossing between Lithuanian SSR and the PRL, but another source suggests there was. Any idea?
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Old August 26th, 2014, 03:47 PM   #12543
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There was no road border crossing at that time. I remember myself, we had school excursion to Vilnius and Grodno. We had to cross border by train in Kuznica Bialostocka.
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Old August 27th, 2014, 11:29 PM   #12544
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Entering Warsaw from west (A2, S2, Trasa Salomea-Wolica, Aleje Jerozolimskie).



It is amazing to see how road infrastructure improved over the past few years. 3 years ago it wasn't uncommon to waste an hour trying to reach Janki (DK7/DK8) from Warsaw centre. Now in one hour you can reach Łódź.

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Old August 28th, 2014, 02:53 AM   #12545
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East Europe infrastructure is changing fast and some day is going to be as good as West Europe infrastructure .
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Old August 28th, 2014, 03:52 AM   #12546
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Post soviet nations still have a very, very far way to go to reach western infrastructure standards, but they are indeed improving very quickly.
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Old August 28th, 2014, 04:16 AM   #12547
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Poland is Central Europe and never part of Soviet Union The A2 and A4 make the German autobahns on the other side of the river look like cow paths (we ignore DK18)
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Old August 28th, 2014, 08:07 AM   #12548
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Poland is Central Europe and never part of Soviet Union
I believe Innsertnamehere meant nations formerly occupied by the Soviet Union.

I agree with all the comments that Poland is making rapid progress, still has a long way to go, and will eventual catch up with western europe in terms motorway development.
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Old August 28th, 2014, 09:03 AM   #12549
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Poland is Central Europe and never part of Soviet Union The A2 and A4 make the German autobahns on the other side of the river look like cow paths (we ignore DK18)
Infrastructure in the whole UK looks like a cow paths compared to Polish.
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Old August 28th, 2014, 12:32 PM   #12550
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I agree that Poland has come a long way in terms of more good quality motorways and expressways but there is still a long way to go

But I am confident that with so many tenders for new roads being announced that Poland will achieve an excellent road network by 2020

Thanks to lots of hard work we can look forward to new expressways and motorways opening in the coming weeks and months
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Old August 28th, 2014, 04:28 PM   #12551
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A big number of kilometars should be opened by the end of this year
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Old August 28th, 2014, 05:22 PM   #12552
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~190 km of A/S more... that's not much compared to 2012

+ ~200km of other roads than A/S.
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Old August 28th, 2014, 05:35 PM   #12553
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Tender announced today for the S6 from Goleniów all the way through to just east of Koszalin (which it will bypass to the north)

Also included in this is an announcement for the tender for the bypasses of Wałcz (S10) and Szczecinek (S11)

http://www.gddkia.gov.pl/pl/a/16127/...lcz-szczecinek
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Old August 28th, 2014, 05:35 PM   #12554
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Today, new tenders for construction of expressways were launched: S6 and S-11 Koszalin and Sianów' bypass (appr. 21 km); S-11 Szczecinek by-pass (appr. 12 km); S-10 Wałcz bypass (appr. 18 km); and S-7 Gdańsk-Elbląg section (appr. 39.5 km).
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Old August 29th, 2014, 02:53 PM   #12555
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[...] The A2 and A4 make the German autobahns on the other side of the river look like cow paths (we ignore DK18)

True. You can see the superiority of Polish highways on a trip from Warsaw to Berlin on the A2 (or on a journey from Lodz to Gdansk on the A1).

On the Polish side you have the pleasure to stop several times at toll plazas and wait in the resulting traffic jams to pay for the honour to use these awesome roads.
Germans on the other hand aren't able to experience such enjoyment because their 12.000 km of cow paths are free-to-use.
And on around 6.000 km of these cow paths they can drive as fast as they wish.
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Old August 29th, 2014, 06:11 PM   #12556
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I'm of the opinion too that the frequent stopping for toll booths is a complete joke. Barrier tolls on a long distance route make absolutely no sense.

It's pie in the sky stuff, but I'd like to see the construction of a third lane on the A2 bypass of Poznan, but built in such a way that the third lane would be only for traffic heading towards Warsaw. They would be able to drive straight through the toll booths without stopping, but the lane would be physically segregated from the others.

After that, the A2 should be a closed system.

Incidentally, is there any information on tolls for the A2 from Łódź to Warsaw?
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Old August 29th, 2014, 07:01 PM   #12557
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Works completed, waiting for opening

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Old August 30th, 2014, 11:43 AM   #12558
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What about the Milowka section of S69? If I am not wrong without that secion trucks can't use that road, right?
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Trucks are allowed on the whole lenght of Polish DK69/S69.
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Old August 30th, 2014, 01:17 PM   #12560
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The construction of S69 is very fast.
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