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Old September 24th, 2014, 05:05 PM   #12701
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OK , I checked and I see that they changed lines for Italian superstradas as well
Hmmm I drove a little on superstradas and must say they are much below motorway standard, I drove near Bracciano lake - that road was much lower
standard when compared to motorway , same the road along the see south from Groseto.
Polish expressway - no doubt this is like motorways but Italians superstradas -
I have many doubts , they are grade seperated but they are narrow with
small radius and pavement is often quite poor.
They are really good if you consider them in their own class
but when you compare them with autostradas , they are very much below such standard.

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I would be very glad if we had such "POOR" superstradas in Poland
Do you know how many superstradas kilometres are in Italy ?

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Old September 24th, 2014, 05:22 PM   #12702
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Google Maps is international, and they want one layout for all countries. So they should use international definitions (controlled-access, limited-access* and other highways), not national definitions, because these are different in every country.

* a common misconception in Europe is that 'limited-access highways' are expressways like droga ekspresowa. This is not correct. A droga ekspresowa is a controlled-access highway, because the only way you can access it is through interchanges. A limited-access highway is a highway with partial control of access, including traffic signals and occasional driveway access. This road type is less common in most of Europe than it is in the Americas or Asia.
It is in fact so difficult to make right standards internationally for all countries. There are such an "interesting" cases like the one below from eastern Africa. (Semenawi Bahri Tollway)

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Old September 24th, 2014, 05:48 PM   #12703
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CZ

They changed as well road lines in CZ near Novy Jicin , Pribor , that road is very narrow , overtaking is very dangerous, much below even superstrada standard but today looks on the map as motorway
Agree , google doesn`t know what they are doing...........
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Old September 24th, 2014, 05:53 PM   #12704
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It is in fact so difficult to make right standards internationally for all countries. There are such an "interesting" cases like the one below from eastern Africa. (Semenawi Bahri Tollway)
All toll roads are shown in orange and it was like that befeore the change and now too!

Let me clarify things a bit:

Roads in Google Maps have "priority" attribute. It is explained here: https://support.google.com/mapmaker/.../1098056?hl=en

The two highest priorities are "Freeway" (Autostrada) and Expressway ("Droga ekspresowa")

Before yesterday's change Freeways and toll roads were rendered in orange, and Expressways were rendered in yellow. Now both priorities are rendered in orange and toll roads have a black outline if you zoom.

A year ago Polish Map Maker community decided that Polish S roads meet all Google requirements for a "Freeway" priority and we changed the priority on maps. So they were rendered orange.

In December, Google started an operation of destroying maps of Poland and Romania. During this operation, they lowered S roads priority to "Expressway" because they don't understand their own guidelines.
How can a Polish S road have the same priority as this?

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Old September 24th, 2014, 10:40 PM   #12705
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Agree , google doesn`t know what they are doing...........
I also agree. I'm finding the Apple Maps are better (though not perfect). I like that Apple Maps shows Poland's A-class and S-class roads the same way, but I'm not so happy that even single-carriageway S-class roads are shown that way.
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Old September 24th, 2014, 11:02 PM   #12706
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How can a Polish S road have the same priority as this?
Well, Google turned 180 degree from not showing expressways in orange in Poland to showing regular roads as expressways in Ukraine. So we have total mess not only in Africa (as above)
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Old September 24th, 2014, 11:31 PM   #12707
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So we have total mess not only in Africa (as above)
THere are many places like that. Just look at this dirt road in Pakistan:
http://goo.gl/maps/MgJec
almost all roads in Colombia are marked in orange:
http://goo.gl/maps/R9kAf
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Old September 25th, 2014, 12:19 AM   #12708
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Meybe it's because of a signage.
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Old September 25th, 2014, 12:25 AM   #12709
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Tomorrow (25.09.2014) about 1 p.m. opening new section of Aleja Solidarności in Lublin and connected section of expressway S17 (total 13 kilometres lenght):





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Old September 25th, 2014, 01:16 AM   #12710
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I like the red
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Old September 25th, 2014, 09:52 AM   #12711
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Sidewalks are nice too.
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Old September 25th, 2014, 09:56 AM   #12712
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I like the red
So do I
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Old September 25th, 2014, 02:44 PM   #12713
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It's open .

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Old September 25th, 2014, 02:54 PM   #12714
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Is a contractor choosen for the A1 from Strykow - Tusyn?
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Old September 25th, 2014, 03:10 PM   #12715
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It should be any day now. Mota-Engil (one section) and Strabag - Budimex consortium (two sections) had the most favorable offers.
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More good news (coming directly from GDDKiA):
- section Lublin Rudnik – Lublin Felin (DK19 -> S17 east) should be opened at the beginning of October
- section Lublin Sławinek – Lublin Rudnik (S17 west -> DK19) should be ready by the end of October

This means 70 kilometers of undisrupted expressway from Kurów to Piaski.
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Old September 25th, 2014, 04:54 PM   #12716
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These are pretty impressive sexy shots of S17 in Lublin.
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Old September 25th, 2014, 06:13 PM   #12717
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Todays opening and driving video from Aleja Solidarności in Lublin and new section of S17:

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A tutaj mój film z otwarcia z trochę innej perspektywy, z wiaduktu w ciągu ul. Głównej


Direction Warsaw:
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Nowy wyjazd z Lublina na Warszawę i dalej do węzła Jastków


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No to czas na film z przejazdu w kierunku Lublina



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Old September 25th, 2014, 07:51 PM   #12718
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Will the S69 be finished in the end of October?
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Old September 26th, 2014, 11:00 AM   #12719
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Will the S69 be finished in the end of October?
I think that another small section of it is supposed to open in mid-November time but that's not for certain. But this section won't reach Zywiec
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Old September 26th, 2014, 04:33 PM   #12720
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A1/DTŚ interchange by Krzysztof Krzemiński
Should be opened in November

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