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Old October 13th, 2014, 11:19 PM   #12861
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people from Radom have guns
And 'Sly Hag' ('Chytra Baba').
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Old October 13th, 2014, 11:36 PM   #12862
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You said DK12 so still not S12?
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Old October 13th, 2014, 11:45 PM   #12863
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S12 is planned after 2020 and that bypass will not be a part of it.
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Old October 14th, 2014, 12:55 AM   #12864
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Briefly:
Southern bypass of Radom in BLUE
Future S12 (one of the proposals) in RED
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Old October 14th, 2014, 01:28 AM   #12865
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Actually it is not a part of DK12.



This is a map of Kielce
LOL indeed

Excuse me for my mistake.
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Old October 14th, 2014, 03:43 AM   #12866
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I'm curious about the Radom south bypass vs S 12 plan... it seems excessive, unless south bypass would serve some other purpose in "ultimate" plan?
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Old October 14th, 2014, 03:59 AM   #12867
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Lowering speed limits to reduce noise doesn't help that much. Trucks emit the most noise and they are unaffected by lower speed limits on motorways and expressways.

Most countries have some kind of 'exemption scheme' where you don't have to build noise barriers in front of every single house in a rural area.

For example, you won't see noise barriers this extreme elsewhere:


It will be use for eco crops plantations.
Naive rich people eats only their eco food grown in absolute silence, filled with euromonies instead of fertilizer
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Old October 14th, 2014, 09:26 AM   #12868
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On this map my hometown seems to be located on some very mountainous area. I want to assure you: there are no road tunnels, the landform makes no problem for farmers, and the land is mostly arable.
No shit. On this map it seems like I live in the Himalayas where in reality the region is only slightly mountainous and not even that high. I'm slightly over 700 m n.p.m. and the highest point in a 20-kilometre radius is 1310 m n.p.m. Nothing very spectacular, just gentle, low-mountain country...
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Old October 14th, 2014, 09:36 AM   #12869
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I'm curious about the Radom south bypass vs S 12 plan... it seems excessive, unless south bypass would serve some other purpose in "ultimate" plan?
Hopefully, S12 will be built in several years but traffic is bad today. I’m not surprised that the city decided to take matters into their own hands.
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Old October 14th, 2014, 10:00 AM   #12870
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I'm curious about the Radom south bypass vs S 12 plan... it seems excessive, unless south bypass would serve some other purpose in "ultimate" plan?
The south bypass is built in low standard compared to S12. It has only 3 km of 2x2 grade-separated road, the rest is plain 1x2 with at-grade intersections. It is meant to serve both local traffic and transit traffic (until S12 gets built). S12 will be located too far from the city to be useful for its citizens.
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Old October 14th, 2014, 04:12 PM   #12871
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S7/DK16 Ostróda

I see the Italians made another dump offer.

http://www.gddkia.gov.pl/pl/a/16628/...odnicy-Ostrody

What are the chances of this getting awarded for such a low price? It's more than 30% under the estimated budget and far lower than the other bids.
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Old October 14th, 2014, 04:49 PM   #12872
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The estimated budget has nothing to do with possibility of completion or real price of construction this road, much more important is price difference between offers. Previous, there has been submitted offers close to (or even below) 50% of budget value and has been built well on time.
So, as you suggested, a cause of concern is only much lower offer value in compared to others.
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Old October 14th, 2014, 08:18 PM   #12873
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Rumour has it that the first section of Lublin ringroad (Rudnik-Felin) will be opened tomorrow.
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Old October 14th, 2014, 08:25 PM   #12874
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Rumour has it that the first section of Lublin ringroad (Rudnik-Felin) will be opened tomorrow.
Only rumour. Depends on how quickly licence for it's use is issued

http://lublin.gazeta.pl/lublin/56,35..._ZDJECIA_.html

I think that realistically 1st November is more likely as a date for the entire Lublin bypass opening to traffic

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Old October 15th, 2014, 04:38 PM   #12875
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Well, they just opened it.

P.S. Greetings from Kiev!!!
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Old October 15th, 2014, 04:58 PM   #12876
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Only rumour. Depends on how quickly licence for it's use is issued

http://lublin.gazeta.pl/lublin/56,35..._ZDJECIA_.html

I think that realistically 1st November is more likely as a date for the entire Lublin bypass opening to traffic
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Old October 15th, 2014, 05:27 PM   #12877
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Seems like a lot of agreements have been signed lately for the construction of new highway stretches. Any chance someone could throw in an updated map with what has been opened, what is under construction.
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Old October 15th, 2014, 05:32 PM   #12878
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Always up-to-date, IgorSel's map, available here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ka-igorsel.png

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Old October 15th, 2014, 07:17 PM   #12879
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This was posted on GDDKiA's facebook page 40 minutes ago...



... but reports are coming in: they're off!
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It's official: http://www.gddkia.gov.pl/pl/a/16670/...odnicy-Lublina . 10 kilometers to go.

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Old October 15th, 2014, 09:18 PM   #12880
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We ridin First 13 kilometres lenght section of S12/S17 Lublin bypass has opened Second section (marked grey on map) will be opened end of October/ beginning of November




This is road we were fighting an waiting for so long

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