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Old October 30th, 2014, 10:35 PM   #13041
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And what is the reason for the renumbering scheme in Poland? Motorways and expressways do have different prefix (A, S) so in my opinion it wouldn't be a problem if there are A1, S1 and DK1 at the same time.
A or S prefix is not considered a part of road number. And since there can't be two different routes with the same number, old roads need to be renumbered.
Yet, at the moment we have two parallel "1" routes in SIlesian voivodship and nobody cares...

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DK88/DTŚ interchange, photo by Krzysztof Krzemiński.
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Old October 30th, 2014, 11:09 PM   #13042
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A or S prefix is not considered a part of road number.
That's strange. I know that state roads often don't have letter as part of their official road number (that's the case in Croatia too), but letter "A" in motorway designation is the official part of it

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And since there can't be two different routes with the same number, old roads need to be renumbered.
Yet, at the moment we have two parallel "1" routes in SIlesian voivodship and nobody cares...
That's exactly what I wanted to ask. There are A1 and S1 next to each other, yet they lead to different destinations...
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Old October 30th, 2014, 11:14 PM   #13043
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A national road (droga krajowa) has one number. Whether it's built as a regular road, expressway or motorway.

So 'droga krajowa 4' can be DK4, S4 or A4. But there can't be two 'droga krajowa 4' parallel to each other. So they are renumbered to a DK9x number (for instance DK91, DK92, DK94, etc.)
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Old October 31st, 2014, 12:02 AM   #13044
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So much new roads in this week that you can go crazy

Upgraded section od DK8/DK65 in Białystok. Opened 2 days ago. Video found on youtube.

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Old October 31st, 2014, 12:20 AM   #13045
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A national road (droga krajowa) has one number. Whether it's built as a regular road, expressway or motorway.

So 'droga krajowa 4' can be DK4, S4 or A4. But there can't be two 'droga krajowa 4' parallel to each other. So they are renumbered to a DK9x number (for instance DK91, DK92, DK94, etc.)
Well, now I understand the Polish road numbering scheme, but it's still strange to me. I find Hungarian model way better Maybe it's because I'm used to Croatian or Italian way where every type of road has it's own numbering scheme...
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Old October 31st, 2014, 01:23 AM   #13046
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Now it is official: 34.8 kilometers of A4 (Tarnów - Dębica) opened to traffic.

This means that as of today Poland, with 3012.2 kilimeters of morotways and expressways in operation combined, broke the treshold of 3000 kilometers.

Earlier, 2500 kilometers treshold was broken in 2013 and 2000 kilometers treshold was broken in 2012.

There are 380,2 kilometers under construction and further 951.2 kilometers in tender. However we do not expect to break the next tresholds (3500 and 4000 kilometers) that soon again; probably in 2017/2018 and in 2020/2021, respectively. Which is still a good pace.

PS. Yes, this includes also 1x2 grade separated expressways, but on the other hand excludes many 2x2 or 2x3 grade separated GP class roads (such as DTŚ in Silesia). In other words, yes, we can mark today as the marking point for braking the 3000 kilometers treshold.
Of 1,330 km roads under construction and under tender at least 1,000 km (and probably many) more will be completed in 50 months time meaning that 4,000 km will be exceeded in late 2018
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Old October 31st, 2014, 12:32 PM   #13047
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Thank you Poland that my way to Kyiv gets shorter every year.


This one would be nice, so I had an alternative and could visit other cities:
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droga_e...2_%28Polska%29

But as I understand, I won't be built soon.
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Old October 31st, 2014, 12:43 PM   #13048
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It won't. Puławy bypass (therefore the whole section between Puławy and Piaski) should be ready by the end of 2018, perhaps sooner but that's it.
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Old October 31st, 2014, 03:35 PM   #13049
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Stage 2 i.e. final part of Lezajsk bypass now open to traffic

Ahead of schedule might I add - well done Dragados!
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Old October 31st, 2014, 03:49 PM   #13050
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Northern part of Lublin ringroad opened!

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Old October 31st, 2014, 04:20 PM   #13051
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How long is a 3 lane road section of Lublin ringroad guys?
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10,2 kilometers - the whole length of S12/S17/S19 joint section.
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Old October 31st, 2014, 05:40 PM   #13053
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It won't. Puławy bypass (therefore the whole section between Puławy and Piaski) should be ready by the end of 2018, perhaps sooner but that's it.
I think he meant the A4... Would by the way be nice if the E40 on the Ukrainian side could be finished all the way down to Lwów, but I doubt we'll see that anytime soon...
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Old October 31st, 2014, 06:01 PM   #13054
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I'm pretty sure he meant S12 -check the link he provided .
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Old October 31st, 2014, 09:19 PM   #13055
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What is the official (posted) name of the A1 / DTŚ interchange?
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Old October 31st, 2014, 09:24 PM   #13056
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I just noticed the Lublin area has imagery dated 4 September 2014 (!) in Google Earth

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Old October 31st, 2014, 09:29 PM   #13057
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A4 Motorway Tarnów - Dębica

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Old October 31st, 2014, 10:19 PM   #13058
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What is the official (posted) name of the A1 / DTŚ interchange?
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Isn't that the A1/A4/DK44 interchange?
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Old October 31st, 2014, 10:47 PM   #13060
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Big day for me and all SCC users from Lublin region! Our bypass is opened and looks great I'm happy ass hell

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