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Old October 31st, 2014, 10:54 PM   #13061
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Old October 31st, 2014, 11:07 PM   #13062
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Red bridges are the fastest
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Old November 1st, 2014, 12:01 AM   #13063
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And this one really looks nice.
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Old November 1st, 2014, 12:15 AM   #13064
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Today driving video from S12/S17/S19 Lublin bypass opening

Junction 'Lublin Sławinek' ---------> Junction 'Lublin Felin' :
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Old November 1st, 2014, 12:31 AM   #13065
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Isn't that the A1/A4/DK44 interchange?
It is considered one big interchange, not two separate ones.

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And this one really looks nice.
Then check out the 360° view
http://www.foto-kwidzyn.pl/airpano/most-kwidzyn/
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Old November 1st, 2014, 12:47 AM   #13066
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Well, now I understand the Polish road numbering scheme, but it's still strange to me. I find Hungarian model way better Maybe it's because I'm used to Croatian or Italian way where every type of road has it's own numbering scheme...
I think it is better system. If you want to go a certain direction, the "important" number gives you the best road. So if you see plate [4] you know, well, the road sucks, but you have no choice. Whereas if you see [A4] you know road is good, and if you see [94], you know you can find a better way to go.
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Old November 1st, 2014, 05:50 AM   #13067
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Red bridges are the fastest
They are Ferrari Bridges
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Old November 1st, 2014, 11:10 AM   #13068
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Red bridges are the fastest
Indeed and this one is as fast as arrow
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Old November 1st, 2014, 01:18 PM   #13069
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I think he meant the A4... Would by the way be nice if the E40 on the Ukrainian side could be finished all the way down to Lwów, but I doubt we'll see that anytime soon...
I meant S12. Would be nice to visit Radom, Lublin et al. on my way, but without an expressway or highway it's just too tiring.
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Old November 1st, 2014, 02:10 PM   #13070
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Congratulations to your 3000 km network!
I have a question: whats the price/km for building an S-road usually in Poland?
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Old November 1st, 2014, 02:32 PM   #13071
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I have a question: whats the price/km for building an S-road usually in Poland?
30-35 million PLN, that is 7-8 million €.

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Time for a summary of this week. I think nothing new will be opened this weekend

Opened motorways:
S8 Walichnowy - Sieradz: 38,9 km
A4 Tarnów - Dębica: 35 km
S12/S17/S19 Lublin bypass: 10,2 km

Total 84,1 km

Other roads:
DK55 Trasa Średnicowa in Grudziądz: 1,1 km
DK12 southern bypass of Sieradz: 6,3 km
DW975 eastern bypass of Wojnicz: 4,6 km
DW384 Sieniawka bypass: 1,6 km
DW384 Uciechów bypass: 2,9 km
DK77 western bypass of Leżajsk: 3,6 km
DK42/DK91 north-western bypass of Radomsko: 3,2 km
DW416 eastern bypass of Głubczyce: 3,7 km

Total 27 km

Also works have finished on other major projects:
DK8/DK65 in Białystok (2 km)
DK88 in Gliwice (1 km)
DK94 in Dąbrowa Górnicza (11 km)
and a number of DW roads.
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Old November 1st, 2014, 03:09 PM   #13072
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what about S69?
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Old November 1st, 2014, 03:29 PM   #13073
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It should be opened next week, probably on Wednesday. The same as DTŚ.
S69 maybe on Saturday.
S8 in late November.
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Old November 1st, 2014, 07:06 PM   #13074
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Old November 1st, 2014, 07:50 PM   #13075
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I think it is better system. If you want to go a certain direction, the "important" number gives you the best road. So if you see plate [4] you know, well, the road sucks, but you have no choice. Whereas if you see [A4] you know road is good, and if you see [94], you know you can find a better way to go.
As far as I know, it was just a coincidence that those roads were renumbered to DK9x, simply because these numbers were available. Luckily for us, only four DKs needed renumbering and all respective numbers were available (DK91, DK92, DK94 and DK98). Despite of lack of legislation, it seems quite logical: A1 and DK91, A2 and DK92, A4 and DK94 run (more or less) parallel to each other (for the sake of argument, let’s forget about DK98 and A1/S1 in Silesian Voivodeship). So far, so good.

Now, let’s have a look at other DK9x.
*DK90 is a DK91-DK55 connector; it’s 15 km; it is required by law that a road ensuring cohesion of the national road’s network is signed DK
*DK93 runs from DK3 to the border; it’s 14,5 km; it is required by law that a road to a border is signed DK
*DK95 is an A1-DK55 connector; it’s 2,3 km; required by law
*DK96 is an A1-DK15 connector; it’s 2,1 km; required by law; it has nothing to do with A6
*DK97 is an A4-DK94 connector; it’s 6,5 km; required by law
*DK99 is the last available number in the whole network

There are some other examples of short DKs performing same roles as above but numbered differently, (e.g., DK13, DK68, DK89). It’s all rather chaotic.





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Old November 1st, 2014, 09:50 PM   #13076
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It seems to me the system is pretty illogical and chaotic to such a big country like Poland...

I don't want to be OT, but it's correlated: in Croatia the law also requires that all motorway and highway connectors, roads to state borders and maritime ports and airports must be state roads. But, there's a strict numbering scheme:
- 1-9 are state highways (not motorways, just ordinary 1+1 roads) that span the whole country; odd numbers are N-S routes (rising from west to east), even numbers are W-E routes (rising from north to south)
- 2-digit numbers are for shorter state routes, usually between regional/county centres
- 3-digit numbers are other routes:
1xx roads on islands
2xx roads to border crossings
3xx state connectors to motorways and other state roads
4xx roads to airports, sea ports, river ports
5xx other connecting roads.
Then, there are motorways numbered from A1 to A13, which are not related to numbers of parallel state roads. Expressways are numbered accordingly to above mentioned rules (so there are D1, D2, D33, D76, D220, D424, D425...), because expressways are usually just certain sections of state roads which have been widened to 2x2 and denivelated
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Old November 1st, 2014, 09:52 PM   #13077
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The map on the front page will be changing colours now good very good
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Old November 1st, 2014, 10:37 PM   #13078
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About road numbering, has someone a link or a map with old numbering? I remember that from Warszawa to Bialystok was DK18 and GOP was DK15 instead of S1
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 12:16 AM   #13079
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It seems to me the system is pretty illogical and chaotic to such a big country like Poland...
A proper numbering scheme is precisely what we need once we’ve completed the basic network. Until then, it is what it is (e.g., DK12 is one of the longest national roads and runs across the country whereas DK13 is just 17 km long).

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I went on the Internet and I found this:

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I jeszcze coś. [rok 1987]







Bonus: 2000 motorway network seen in a 1971 documentary film:



Look at the size of these interchanges .
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 01:49 AM   #13080
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If you'd want to go from Warsaw to Gdańsk, you'd have to go through Toruń
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