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Old November 2nd, 2014, 02:43 AM   #13081
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I think more through Bydgoszcz...
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 05:01 AM   #13082
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 04:07 PM   #13083
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Thank you Maciek
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 12:53 AM   #13084
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Lublin bypass direction 'Lublin Felin' --------> 'Lublin Sławinek':


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBI8z_LbHcE

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Old November 3rd, 2014, 01:12 AM   #13085
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Congratulations to your 3000 km network!
I have a question: whats the price/km for building an S-road usually in Poland?
In last decade average price of building 2x2 expressway was 30-35 mln PLN/ km and motorway about 35-40 mln PLN/ km.
1 EURO ~ 4,2 PLN
It's only cost of building not construction planning, land etc but building cost are often like 90% of all cost.

But one road isn't equal second road.
Most expensive polish road is section of expressway S8 in Warsaw with cost about 200 mln PLN / km.
Other example is A8 in Wrocław (crossing Odra river) and A1 near Gliwice (mining damages) with cost 100-200 mln PLN / km.
All these roads are in or near highly urbanized area of big cities

From other side some sections of expressway S3 were built for less than 20 mln PLN/ km, A1 25 mln PLN/km A2 20 mln/km
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 02:54 AM   #13086
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I think more through Bydgoszcz...
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 04:08 PM   #13087
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Warsaw has new imagery on Google Earth dated 4 October 2014. You need to force it to the top by enabling the historical imagery layer in Google Earth.

You can see the new bridge of S8 across the Wisła, as well as the new S8 alignment south of the city. The Lazurowa extension is also visible.
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 09:22 PM   #13088
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Other places too

For example Gliwice (from August, DTŚ visible) or Słupsk (from September, western bypass - DK21 visible) or Przemyśl (from May, eastern bypass visible)
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Old November 4th, 2014, 10:34 PM   #13089
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Is this against parking on the sidewalk? Ulica Astrowa, Warsaw.

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Old November 4th, 2014, 10:44 PM   #13090
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Sadly: YES.
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Old November 4th, 2014, 10:53 PM   #13091
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Oh, the infamous "patriotic" parking poles.

Check out also "patriotic barriers" that secure pedestrian from wild wheat: https://maps.google.pl/maps?q=krynic...246.02,,0,6.61
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Old November 4th, 2014, 11:00 PM   #13092
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HEHEHE... yes, that is ridiculous! However these are put for different reasons...
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Old November 4th, 2014, 11:34 PM   #13093
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HEHEHE... yes, that is ridiculous! However these are put for different reasons...
For the same reasons why there are so many acoustic panels everywhere, whoever is producing that crap is making a ton of money.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 12:06 AM   #13094
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Is this against parking on the sidewalk? Ulica Astrowa, Warsaw.

That is a waste of money.They don't need to be so densly placed.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 12:18 AM   #13095
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That is a waste of money.They don't need to be so densly placed.
Clearly you havent seen Polish drivers on their mission to park.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 12:26 AM   #13096
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Clearly you havent seen Polish drivers on their mission to park.
Obviously not
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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:22 AM   #13097
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That is a waste of money.They don't need to be so densly placed.
Trust me, they do. Polish drivers (aided by a laughably low punishment if caught, which is highly unlikely in such an area) really will dump their cars anywhere without regard to rules.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:35 AM   #13098
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you say that like it is a bad thing... look at that photo, a deserted street and deserted sidewalks

might as well at least remove 1 side of the posts so people could park and people would be using the place

Honestly I found it so refreshing parking in Poland vs. parking in say a North American city where you have so many rules (no way ever you could park 2 wheels on a sidewalk for example). Only Krakow I found really annoying.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 02:09 AM   #13099
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Nobody in North America parks his car with 2 wheels on sidewalk... It is no special rule to obey, just simply nobody does it. BTW, Is this really easier than just parking along the curb?
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Old November 5th, 2014, 02:20 AM   #13100
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For here in Canada it is definitely illegal, you will get ticket 100% of time. The law (in Montreal for example) is off the curb but no more than 150 mm away from it.

It is much harder to park 2 wheels on sidewalk and you might scratch your fancy wheels, but, in those places Poles park on sidewalk, Americans are not allowed to park at all!
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