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Old March 11th, 2015, 06:58 PM   #13961
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Size of the signs is big enough, but the letters are too small (while directional arrows are also big).

Also, I don't find long placenames such a problem. They can be written in 2 lines (like Stargard Szczecinski centrum), or be shortened. For example, there's lot of long names in Croatia which are usually shortened:
Slavonski Brod -> Sl. Brod
Velika Kopanica -> V. Kopanica
Donji Miholjac -> D. Miholjac
they do it in Poland, too.
https://maps.google.hr/maps?q=Ostr%C...123.91,,1,3.48
https://maps.google.hr/maps?q=Ostrow...19.83,,1,-6.46
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Old March 11th, 2015, 07:20 PM   #13962
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Signage on S-roads is too small.
I don't like sings on A-roads, neither. Here's A4 near Tarnów. There isn't even DK73 signage (due to DK73 not being directly connected to A4; there a ~300m connector ). Photo by Agusia:



That's what I call a proper sign:


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Old March 11th, 2015, 08:09 PM   #13963
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This is actually the longest junction name in Poland. So far

"Międzyrzec Podlaski Południe" also has 26 letters but it is not yet signed

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Also, I don't find long placenames such a problem. They can be written in 2 lines (like Stargard Szczecinski centrum), or be shortened.
Or be as wide as 2 lanes
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Old March 11th, 2015, 08:57 PM   #13964
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I don't like sings on A-roads, neither. Here's A4 near Tarnów. There isn't even DK73 signage (due to DK73 not being directly connected to A4; there a ~300m connector ). Photo by Agusia:

A1-7 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr
DK15 isn`t directly connented with A1 motorway, but it`s signed on the motorway .
I think is a formal problem in the GDDKiA branch - Krakow, to not sign the roads numberes which isn`t connected directly to the motorway....
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Old March 12th, 2015, 12:06 AM   #13965
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I don't like sings on A-roads, neither. Here's A4 near Tarnów. There isn't even DK73 signage (due to DK73 not being directly connected to A4; there a ~300m connector ).

That's exactly what I meant. There chaos in terms of colors, size of signs itself etc. IMO also fonts aren't good.
Ohh I would really change our system for any other from baltics, Czech rep., Germany, Scandinavia.
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Old March 12th, 2015, 02:15 AM   #13966
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DK15 isn`t directly connented with A1 motorway, but it`s signed on the motorway .
I think is a formal problem in the GDDKiA branch - Krakow, to not sign the roads numberes which isn`t connected directly to the motorway....
Yes but the whole connector is signed DK96. And that’s another absurdity: the whole DK96 is just 1,5km but if that tiny section hadn’t been made a droga krajowa, I believe DK15 wouldn’t have been signed, either.
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Old March 12th, 2015, 09:53 AM   #13967
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Other example:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@50.30372...6tMOcpagQw!2e0
On this particular junction side road to Racibórz is marked but it doesn't mention that it goes through Głubczyce (pretty important city in that region) and that shorter (10 km) and quicker road to Racibórz through which not only google shows route is located just 1,7 km further apart. Just to confuse drivers that road is signed as for Lisęcice:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@50.30595...qMb-qj9LeA!2e0
And there is completely nothing on proper junction which is located 160 m from sign itself.
https://www.google.pl/maps/@50.30557...Olf6TsfUoQ!2e0
According to the law, the only mistake from all this above is signing Lisięcice on second photo. It should be Racibórz. But this sign was placed long, long time ago...
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Old March 12th, 2015, 12:14 PM   #13968
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Outline part of S19 West Lublin Bypass (U/C):

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Old March 12th, 2015, 03:39 PM   #13969
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According to the law, the only mistake from all this above is signing Lisięcice on second photo. It should be Racibórz. But this sign was placed long, long time ago...
Wow, if someone is pleased from fact that sign is according to law but without common sense so I am not surprised that someone may find Czech signage as better. The difference between those two countries is such that in Czech Republic You got lost because You overlook sign, in Poland it is because You spotted a sign which mislead You with odd description.
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Old March 12th, 2015, 11:44 PM   #13970
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S7 Eastern Kraków Bypass (WOK):



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Old March 12th, 2015, 11:58 PM   #13971
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Poligonowa street in Lublin - access to interchange 'Lublin Czechów' on S12/S17/S19 Lublin bypass:

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Old March 13th, 2015, 09:08 PM   #13972
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Tunnel under the 'Dead Wisla' in Gdansk, 1377,5 m long.



















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Old March 15th, 2015, 11:34 PM   #13973
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Interchange Lublin Czechów on S12/S17/S19 Lublin bypass:

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Old March 17th, 2015, 04:46 PM   #13974
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Just read this from Wroclaw's website (in Polish). It was published today:

http://www.wroclaw.pl/przebuduja-droge-krajowa-8

If I've translated it correctly, it appears that the Infrastructure Ministry has no plans to expand S8 down to the Czech border to replace DK8 for the foreseeable future. Until then, the government would like to repair DK8 and increase its number of lanes in traffic-prone areas.

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Old March 17th, 2015, 05:12 PM   #13975
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Infrastructure Ministry has no plans to expand S8 down to the Czech border
To connect Wroclaw to Prague (R11) or Wroclaw to Brno (R43)?

I think R11 (or D11) is an important road for Czech Republic, Poland will complete S3 up to the border too. I think there should be an expressway-like shortcut b/n A4 and S3 to optimize the Warsaw-Prague route. At Jawor (~15km) or Bolkow (~40km along DK5).

We should postpone any discussion about S8 to Brno until Czech Republic has completed its future R43 south of future R35.
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Old March 17th, 2015, 09:00 PM   #13976
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To connect Wroclaw to Prague (R11) or Wroclaw to Brno (R43)?

I think R11 (or D11) is an important road for Czech Republic, Poland will complete S3 up to the border too. I think there should be an expressway-like shortcut b/n A4 and S3 to optimize the Warsaw-Prague route. At Jawor (~15km) or Bolkow (~40km along DK5).

We should postpone any discussion about S8 to Brno until Czech Republic has completed its future R43 south of future R35.
That's pretty much what the article says. While I have no doubt that the Polish will be able to get S3 through Lower Silesia to the Czech border, it remains to be seen with the Czechs, as construction of the Czech Republic's motorway/expressway network seems to have come to a screeching halt thanks to a number of factors (general government incompetence, merry-go-round of ministers at the Transport Ministry and directors at the ŘSD, lack of funds, etc...). The Czech infrastructure situation is truly depressing, and a lot of my Czech colleagues are now starting to realize just how far behind they are when they hear about Poland's road boom. The complete bureaucratic mess with the inability to open the Tunel Blanka here in Prague is just one such example of mass incompetence on all levels.

In any case, I'll be happy when S3/R11 is finally completed. It should take traffic strain off from DK8 on the Polish side, and I/33 on the Czech side. Having worked in Nįchod on the border two years ago, a lot of the locals complained to me about the heavy traffic jams through the middle of the town caused by large freight trucks going back and forth across the Czech-Polish border. S8 all the way to Kudowa-Zdrój would be fantastic, though in all honesty, I have no idea where they would put the expressway, considering the valleys in this area can be a bit narrow, plus terrain and land issues from nearby Stołowe Mountains National Park.
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R43 has probably the lowest priority of all the motorways/expressways in CZ.
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Old March 17th, 2015, 09:28 PM   #13978
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The highest priority in CZ would be to start constructing motorways in the first place. The progress over the past 5 years is just pitiful. Practically every planned project did not start.
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Visible in Google Earth: connection between existing (not in use yet) part of S8 and A1 - currently under construction :
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Looks like S8 could be extended eastwards. Is it still planned/possible to extend the expressway from this point to xxxxxx ?
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