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Old May 2nd, 2015, 02:26 PM   #14201
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Old May 2nd, 2015, 03:31 PM   #14202
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It is one of the remaining parts of the S69 to the Slovakian border, right?
Yes, near Zywiec. The section is shown in red on this map:
http://ssc.siskom.waw.pl/eng.html
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Old May 2nd, 2015, 05:42 PM   #14203
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S12/17/19 in Lublin by Zegarkowy
They've done just a massacre on the landscape there... Always while someone post any photos of such a developed area I'm really ashamed of that land...
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Old May 2nd, 2015, 11:31 PM   #14204
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Yeah, the road should be built underground all the way...
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Old May 2nd, 2015, 11:34 PM   #14205
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They've done just a massacre on the landscape there... Always while someone post any photos of such a developed area I'm really ashamed of that land...
Can you be more specific? What massacre on the land do you mean exactly?
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 10:18 AM   #14206
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That kind of building. Instead of cheap, practical and simply aesthetic compact community they've done just a shit, which actually isn't village or field. I consciously say "they", because it's aftermath of lack of any spatial planning. Then put a motorway between buildings, which only expanded costs of moving and caused problems e.g. with noise... It's just ridiculous for me to develop space like that...
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 02:26 PM   #14207
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That kind of building. Instead of cheap, practical and simply aesthetic compact community they've done just a shit, which actually isn't village or field. I consciously say "they", because it's aftermath of lack of any spatial planning. Then put a motorway between buildings, which only expanded costs of moving and caused problems e.g. with noise... It's just ridiculous for me to develop space like that...
But it has nothing to do with the road itself. Roads are actually one of few things in Poland which are planned. In my opinion quite well planned.

All the other spatial mess is just legacy of culture, social norms, lack of planning, history, economy etc.
We could talk for hours about it but this is not the best thread for such discussions.
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 03:25 PM   #14208
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That kind of building. Instead of cheap, practical and simply aesthetic compact community they've done just a shit, which actually isn't village or field. I consciously say "they", because it's aftermath of lack of any spatial planning. Then put a motorway between buildings, which only expanded costs of moving and caused problems e.g. with noise... It's just ridiculous for me to develop space like that...
You see, you need to be more specific when expressing your opinion. I wasn't sure what are you talking about before... about roads ...?
Yes , you are right that settlements are chaotic not only around Lublin it is unfortunately history of that country. And new S17 if you look closely on Google Satellite images is really put in place as much as possible to avoid buildings which are literally everywhere...
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 07:24 PM   #14209
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Roads are actually one of few things in Poland which are planned. In my opinion quite well planned.
Planned and implemented model of the network of motorways and expressways will pull most of the international transit traffic to Warsaw.
At the same time there are no plans of the highway to allow bypass Warsaw.
The so-called big ring road is building as a single carriageway.

This is a planned network of motorways and expressways in Poland:
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 09:59 PM   #14210
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Those things personally do not matter to me.

What does matter is freedom, space, infrastructure, fast internet, lack of bureaucracy, lack of excessive social control and nanny state, etc...
Then it would be hard to reach any consensus. For me it should be clearly said what the world "freedom" actually means. I guess that human freedom is that man can do whatever they want, but if only don't disturb any other. And when someone build something very different than its neighbourship, resized or conflicting with tidiness of settlement - then behave contrary to others. It doesn't concern only really serious things. And it's being really adhered in Holland, but in Poland - being almost completely neglected. What's more, that kind of settlements takes away a huge part of space that you concern. And what would be the most important to you is that in Poland with all that "builiding freedom" you would pay a fine for drinking beer in park or be taken to the jail if police find in your wallet any amount of weed. Isn't that relativism?
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Old May 4th, 2015, 02:58 AM   #14211
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Planned and implemented model of the network of motorways and expressways will pull most of the international transit traffic to Warsaw.
At the same time there are no plans of the highway to allow bypass Warsaw.
The so-called big ring road is building as a single carriageway.

This is a planned network of motorways and expressways in Poland:
I still hope S10 will go closer to cities of Płock and Włocławek two major industrial cities, each of them over 100k in population. Makes no much sense to build it along present DK10.
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Old May 4th, 2015, 09:03 PM   #14212
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That kind of building. Instead of cheap, practical and simply aesthetic compact community they've done just a shit, which actually isn't village or field. I consciously say "they", because it's aftermath of lack of any spatial planning. Then put a motorway between buildings, which only expanded costs of moving and caused problems e.g. with noise... It's just ridiculous for me to develop space like that...
You're saying it like they had plenty of better space to put this highway and yet they chose that particular one for the sole reason of tearing apart this beautiful community...
Dude, if not this one then another. There is simply no good way out of this. Zoom out on Lublin's neighborhood and you'll see settlements everywhere. The cause of this state is irrelevant here as it can't be repaired now. We can only try to fit new infrastructure in but in this case it's just impossible.
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Old May 4th, 2015, 10:36 PM   #14213
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I marked pretty clearly what I've meant. No doubt that there's no way to put the road better at that area.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 05:12 PM   #14214
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The S7 expressway construction Jędrzejów- voivedoship border, new aerial photos

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Węzeł Wodzisław - obiekt M-5 i W-14

Węzeł Wodzisław widok w kier. Krakowa

W-12 - przejście dla zwierząt w m. Wodzisław


P15 – przepust z przejściem dla zwierząt nr 1

P25 – przepust z przejściem dla zwierząt nr 2

Wytwórnia mas bitumicznych zlokalizowana w m. Potok Mały

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Old May 7th, 2015, 05:31 PM   #14215
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S3 near Gorzow Wielkopolski and town of Miedzyrzecz - widening to 2x2:

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Da się uchwycić całą obwodnicę również z ziemi.



Dziękuję za uwagę.
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Przerwa na dużą herbatę.
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Wypiłem, tzn. jedziemy dalej. (bez podtekstów)

Coś powoli wyłania się.


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Zapatrzyło się na zbrojenie.

Z widoczną ścianką szczelną jest F7.


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Old May 7th, 2015, 06:23 PM   #14216
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S17 -Eastern bypass of Warszawa.
Chosen by GDDKiA variant of bypass (RED):
Now GDDKiA is waiting for issue of environmental decision.



Detailed map. Chosen variant=GREEN:

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Większa mapka

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Old May 7th, 2015, 09:10 PM   #14217
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Tender for 16 km of S5 from Poznan (A2) to Wronczyn has been won by Toto Costruzioni & Vianini Lavori consortium. Cost: 529,24 mln zł. Deadline: 22 months from signing contract.

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Old May 7th, 2015, 11:07 PM   #14218
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True, but austrian PORR has filed a protest against above decision.
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Old May 7th, 2015, 11:14 PM   #14219
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well... nothing new in our reality....
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Old May 7th, 2015, 11:38 PM   #14220
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I do not agree. Lately fairly rarely there are filed protests from the decision to choose of the best bid.
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