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Old September 24th, 2015, 12:57 PM   #14661
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S10 - Wałcz bypass - selected the preferred bidder: „Energopol Szczecin” S.A.
Lenght: 18km 2x2. Completion date: 2 quarter 2017

S11 - Szczecinek bypass - selected the preferred bidder EUROVIA POLSKA S.A
Lenght: 13km (2x2) + ~4km of new DK20. Completion date: 4 quarter 2018

It will take a month to sign the contracts.
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Old September 24th, 2015, 02:51 PM   #14662
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The first contract should be a build contract only. Works should begin "soon", October? I think the "exact" section length from Walcz-West to Witankowo is 17.8km, isn't it?

The latter one is a design and build contract.
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Old September 24th, 2015, 02:54 PM   #14663
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More tenders!

S7 motorway, section Napierki (mazowieckie voividship border) - Płońsk: 73 km
Are you kidding, 73km? Why is the section so long?

Edit: I think it's split into 4 lots, isn't it (> click <). All are tendered now.
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Old September 24th, 2015, 02:57 PM   #14664
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Did they actually sign the contract, or selected the preferred bidder?
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Old September 24th, 2015, 03:29 PM   #14665
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S10 - Wałcz bypass - contract signed with „Energopol Szczecin” S.A.
Lenght: 18km 2x2. Completion date: 2 quarter 2017

S11 - Szczecinek bypass contract signed with EUROVIA POLSKA S.A
Lenght: 13km (2x2) + ~4km of new DK20. Completion date: 4 quarter 2018
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Did they actually sign the contract, or selected the preferred bidder?
GDDKiA have just selected the most preferred bids. It will take at least a month, before the contract is signed.


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Are you kidding, 73km? Why is the section so long?
Edit: I think it's split into 4 lots, isn't it (> click <). All are tendered now.
That`s right. As follow:

LOT1: Napierki - Mława - 14 km
LOT2: Mława - Strzegowo - 21,5 km
LOT3: Strzegowo - Pieńki - 22 km
LOT4: Pieńki - Płońsk - 13,8 km

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Old September 24th, 2015, 07:17 PM   #14666
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S10 - Wałcz bypass - contract signed with „Energopol Szczecin” S.A.
Lenght: 18km 2x2. Completion date: 2 quarter 2017

S11 - Szczecinek bypass contract signed with EUROVIA POLSKA S.A
Lenght: 13km (2x2) + ~4km of new DK20. Completion date: 4 quarter 2018
S10 and S11 are probably at the greatest risk of losing funding if the government will change following the election. S61 and S74 would probably be funded, but the time to build would probably double and the cost per kilometer would probably double or triple.
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Old September 24th, 2015, 08:26 PM   #14667
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"Losing funding" is not a good wording, because S10 and S11 (except for some bypasses) simply have no documentation, therefore they can't be built soon. Neither does S74.
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Old September 24th, 2015, 10:21 PM   #14668
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"Losing funding" is not a good wording, because S10 and S11 (except for some bypasses) simply have no documentation, therefore they can't be built soon. Neither does S74.
I'm not sure what your point is. Are you saying that the bypasses haven't been funded or are you saying that the opposition would continue to fund the S10 and S11 at current or higher levels?

I'm asserting that there has been some funding for the S10 and S11 and that would be reduced (probably to zero) if the opposition were to win the election.
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Old September 24th, 2015, 10:30 PM   #14669
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Nothing can stop the construction of these bypasses at this point, but the rest of S10 and S11 won't be funded in the next few years no matter who wins the election. Well, maybe S10 Bydgoszcz-Toruń has some chances if PiS doesn't win.

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S3: Lubin-North - Lubin-South 11.3km (September 2015 to June 2018) – project – map
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Old September 25th, 2015, 10:50 PM   #14670
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Road safety statistics for August 2015

August

Number of road accidents

- 2015: 3.226
- 2014: 3.178
- 2013: 3.611


Road fatalities

- 2015: 257
- 2014: 279
- 2013: 355


Number of wounded

- 2015: 4.014
- 2014: 4.031
- 2013: 4.578

January-August

Number of road accidents

- 2015: 21.142
- 2014: 22.399
- 2013: 22.257


Road fatalities

- 2015: 1.795
- 2014: 1.949
- 2013: 1.997


Number of wounded

- 2015: 25.898
- 2014: 27.604
- 2013: 27.633

http://statystyka.policja.pl/st/ruch...esiecznym.html
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Old September 26th, 2015, 11:50 AM   #14671
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Old September 26th, 2015, 02:12 PM   #14672
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Driving on A1 between junction with road 22 and junction with road 703 (250 km)

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Old September 27th, 2015, 01:17 AM   #14673
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TBT
A4 ok. Legnica ~2004:


A4 ok. Krzywa ~2002:
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Old September 27th, 2015, 01:38 AM   #14674
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And this was the original German RAB concrete pavement.

Besides that, I am very surprised that they haven't built a proper emergency lane, nor they've installed fences, not even ecoducts for animals, during the complete renovation/rebuilding a few years ago . Seriously, this section is dangerous, especially during night time and there are lots of accidents . Also, these deflectors that are supposed to prevent dazzling, often obscures visibility, i.e. curves, that's especially hazardous when you drive as a "good" Pole 200 km/h instead of the 110 km/h limitation (no speed cameras, controls very infrequent, btw.) . Saying that, I wouldn't want to have a breakdown on the section (...and at night) .


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Old September 27th, 2015, 03:53 AM   #14675
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That median really is too narrow. Given the reality that most drivers will drive between 140 and 200 kmh, that section does need some safety upgrades, including a 2.5m hard shoulder on the right and ideally using the inside 1.0 meter on each side as a 1.0m hard shoulder on the left too (which among other things would increase the distance a driver could see around curves to the left). I'm afraid that if the 3.5m required to do that would be added along the right, it would end up being repurposed as a third lane.
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Old September 27th, 2015, 12:52 PM   #14676
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I think the problem with the A4 is that they had enough cash at the time to renovate it to 110km/h safely, but not enough cash to do the job properly. The proper renovation is supposed to come (as it can't be tolled until it meets full motorway standards) at some point in the nearish future, but I think they'll worry more about getting the A18 up to standard first.

Having said that, I wouldn't object if they took the limit down to 100km/h and enforced it with average speed cameras.
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Old September 27th, 2015, 12:57 PM   #14677
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I am very surprised that they haven't built a proper emergency lane, nor they've installed fences, not even ecoducts for animals, during the complete renovation/rebuilding a few years ago .
This would require demolition of overpasses over the carriageways that are too narrow for 2x2 with emergency lane. This section underwent renovation but not an upgrage to modern motorway standards.

The plan is that this section will be widened to 2x3 plus emergecny lanes and all overpasses will be replaced then. Also, mamy junctions will be closed (this section han an old substandard design, which includes very frequest junctions). It will also become tolled after the upgrade.

If I remember correctly the environmental decision for 2x3 was said to be issued still this year, though many municipalities protest against planned liquidation of the not so busy junctions.
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Old September 27th, 2015, 03:46 PM   #14678
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Heres another pic of old RAB near Chojnów, late 1990's:



Regarding the median, I don't think it's too narrow, as it's 4 meters wide, a "standard" still in use today. Here you can see the configuration of 1934, on which this motorway was built:


And today's 2X2 BAB configuration (RQ31):


You will notice that lane and median width is the same as in 1934. Curiously, already in 1939, it was seen that a proper shoulder was needed.

Looking at the old bridges, IMHO there is enough place to add a 2,5 meter shoulder + crash barriers on both sides:

During renovation in the 2000's.


1930's. You can see that the place is available.

A job already done further north of this section on A18:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@51.43194...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.pl/maps/@51.35708...7i13312!8i6656

...And on this very section:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@51.16071...7i13312!8i6656

Actually, I am not sure that under current traffic, a widening to 2X3 of this portion is required, since it ends on both side 2X2. Maybe between A4/A18 junction in Krzyżowa and Wrocław?

Moreover, adding fences and some ecoducts was not a tremendous job and an extremely costly one to be done . Btw., reconstruction was financed by the EU. Laziness...
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Old September 27th, 2015, 03:49 PM   #14679
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2X3 is definitely needed from Wrocław to Krzyżowa, but there's no need for the A18 to go to three lanes.
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Old September 27th, 2015, 05:42 PM   #14680
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Looking at the old bridges, IMHO there is enough place to add a 2,5 meter shoulder + crash barriers on both sides:

During renovation in the 2000's.
this pic is almost 10 years old.. can you imagine? I remember as I was a child, we visited my grandparents who live nearby Opole 3 times in the year. It took ca 12-15 hours to get there (from Saarbrücken) because of the bad infrastructure in the eastern of germany and poland. As we got through Germany, there was the German-Polish Border with huge traffic jams (it took ca 2 hours to pass the border). After that, we were greeted by the National Road "4", with more traffic jams in Boleslawiec (also took approx. 2 hours to pass Boleslawiec and to get to the motorway). Then, we finally got to the motorway but ,and let me tell you, it was a pain in the ass (literally ! ) 90km of rumbling and a maximum speed of 80 km/h! Luckily, after Wroclaw, the well renovated motorway was a little excuse.

Nowadays, travelling to poland takes maximum 9 hours! It really gets me when I think about how painful the travel to poland was 10 years ago...

[I hope you could understand me,... i know my english isn't quite the best]
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