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Old November 24th, 2015, 07:14 PM   #14941
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A1 Stryków-Tuszyn, from : http://www.a1autostrada.pl
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Old November 24th, 2015, 07:15 PM   #14942
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Old November 25th, 2015, 04:16 PM   #14943
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Construction of the S19 extension west of Rzeszów. It appears that they are building a bridge that spans a valley.

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Old November 26th, 2015, 03:50 AM   #14944
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Whats the status on the last remaining part of the A4 that is not yet open in the east?
Why is it taking such a long time to finish this part of the A4?
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Old November 26th, 2015, 04:09 AM   #14945
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who want to go east anymore?
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Old November 26th, 2015, 05:24 AM   #14946
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who want to go east anymore?
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Old November 26th, 2015, 10:24 AM   #14947
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Whats the status on the last remaining part of the A4 that is not yet open in the east?
Why is it taking such a long time to finish this part of the A4?
Wait till May 2016. Well there are of course some delays I think cause the govts don't want a Ukrainian influx(salaries in Poland being in average 8 times higher than Ukrainian). It was actual for Euro 2012. That was the date when the motorway lost its contractor.. You needn't worry too much unless you are one of those Ukrainians. But surely the ribbon cutting will be in place, as the motorway is the first fully completed long highway(100+ km)
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Old November 26th, 2015, 11:31 AM   #14948
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Why is it taking such a long time to finish this part of the A4?
Due to faild of ex-contractor (Polimex-Mostostal). The current contractors are ahead of schedule, despite of there are some problems with stability of the ground, as well as viaducts and bridges made by ex-contractor. Before next summer motorway should be ready to use.

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Wait till May 2016. Well there are of course some delays I think cause the govts don't want a Ukrainian influx(salaries in Poland being in average 8 times higher than Ukrainian). It was actual for Euro 2012. That was the date when the motorway lost its contractor.. You needn't worry too much unless you are one of those Ukrainians. But surely the ribbon cutting will be in place, as the motorway is the first fully completed long highway(100+ km)

Such a bullshit keep to yourself. In every international thread you post your stupid reflections.. just keep it to yourself.
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Old November 26th, 2015, 12:55 PM   #14949
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In addition, Polimex-Mostostal is also responsible for the delays on A1 Stryków-Tuszyn (current contractors are busting their asses so that this crucial segment of the motorway can be opened ASAP) and S69 Bielsko-Biała - Żywiec (opened in July).
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Old November 26th, 2015, 03:32 PM   #14950
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Due to faild of ex-contractor (Polimex-Mostostal). The current contractors are ahead of schedule, despite of there are some problems with stability of the ground, as well as viaducts and bridges made by ex-contractor. Before next summer motorway should be ready to use.



Such a bullshit keep to yourself. In every international thread you post your stupid reflections.. just keep it to yourself.
If you were Ukrainian you'd understand. Rathe too much people say they are to no use in EU at all, except for cheap labour. Etc.etc... But yeah you are right. That was stupid of me. I'm again talking about politics. That's not nice at all. Anyway, I don't deny the motorway is very important for Poland.
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Old November 26th, 2015, 03:49 PM   #14951
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Claiming that Poland does not want to open the last section of the A4 motorway, in order to stop the influx of citizens of Ukraine is just silly.
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Old November 26th, 2015, 06:33 PM   #14952
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Perhaps he was just ironic
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Old November 27th, 2015, 01:57 AM   #14953
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If you were Ukrainian you'd understand. Rathe too much people say they are to no use in EU at all, except for cheap labour. Etc.etc... But yeah you are right. That was stupid of me. I'm again talking about politics. That's not nice at all. Anyway, I don't deny the motorway is very important for Poland.
Poland should be happy to get Ukrainians, very nice, decent an hardworking people. cheers
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Old November 27th, 2015, 03:10 AM   #14954
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Due to faild of ex-contractor (Polimex-Mostostal). The current contractors are ahead of schedule, despite of there are some problems with stability of the ground, as well as viaducts and bridges made by ex-contractor. Before next summer motorway should be ready to use.



Such a bullshit keep to yourself. In every international thread you post your stupid reflections.. just keep it to yourself.
If Poland does not want a motorway, they won't build one. Look at Belarus, no motorway (except a small piece) between Warsaw ans the border. Its idiotic to start building a motorway and slow the process afterwards.

All in all, i would think that one can argue, that there is not "Poland" and "Ukraine". So it might be possible that some politicians like the ides of the motorway, others don't. And some people like the ukrainian workforce and see its advantages, others not. But i suppose, this small piece of motorway won't change much. Both things just have not much to do with each other.

In general as the same things are true for the polish-german commuting of workers: I never got the point why germans hate polish workers for "taking our labor" whilst nobody wants to dig out asparagus 10 hours a day. There was an interview with some owners of farms. They told, that only occasional a german asks for the work at all. And no one did stay....

I think its time for me to bow down before all this people who work hard in our country. As we are at SSC, i might mention the working brigades from Kosovo which were involved in several raod projects next my place. Or the polish rail builders... If germans don't want to do this hard work anymore like our fathers did, thats ok. But in this case we should be thankful to others doing it. What we do is treating them like shit. Thats evil.
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Old November 27th, 2015, 03:36 AM   #14955
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what about local traffic justifying sooner construction of motorway link than traffic near border? Maybe the traffic flow on the existing road between Rzesow and Jaroslaw is generally fluid and so construction priority should be sent to other more pressing matters... (maybe yes, maybe no, but certainly the earlier constructions of the A4 (e.g. Krakow - Wroclaw) were very important and the part to UA border less so...)
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Old November 27th, 2015, 11:21 AM   #14956
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If Poland does not want a motorway, they won't build one. Look at Belarus, no motorway (except a small piece) between Warsaw ans the border. Its idiotic to start building a motorway and slow the process afterwards.

All in all, i would think that one can argue, that there is not "Poland" and "Ukraine". So it might be possible that some politicians like the ides of the motorway, others don't. And some people like the ukrainian workforce and see its advantages, others not. But i suppose, this small piece of motorway won't change much. Both things just have not much to do with each other.

In general as the same things are true for the polish-german commuting of workers: I never got the point why germans hate polish workers for "taking our labor" whilst nobody wants to dig out asparagus 10 hours a day. There was an interview with some owners of farms. They told, that only occasional a german asks for the work at all. And no one did stay....

I think its time for me to bow down before all this people who work hard in our country. As we are at SSC, i might mention the working brigades from Kosovo which were involved in several raod projects next my place. Or the polish rail builders... If germans don't want to do this hard work anymore like our fathers did, thats ok. But in this case we should be thankful to others doing it. What we do is treating them like shit. Thats evil.
That`s not the point of my last post. I just wanted to explain:
1. reason of delay regarding construction of A4 motorway (east of Rzeszów).
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2. that this delay have nothing to do with Ukrainians or other nation or country.
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Old November 27th, 2015, 04:05 PM   #14957
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My POV on this

Polish priotities were cristal clear back in 2007; to connect existing A stretches to EU network first, followed with substantial development of motorway network throughout the country, especially between large cities and metro areas (another thing being whether Poland in fact followed the plan consequently or not).
While A4 construction all the way to Ukraine was initiated only due to EURO 2012, otherwise it would probably end somewhere near to Rzeszow (A2 discontinuation being sample here).

There is perhaps very little advantage so far for a direct motorway connection to Ukraine or Belarus considering ages one needs to spend on the border checking in the end and little local traffic as well.

Nevertheless I do believe high traffic density is only one reason to upgrade DK to A/S category. Bringing more business and development being the other, meaning enhancing a pace of development of Eastern Polish regions and increasing their competitivness ability against Western Poland.

And only then, with time, traffic numbers are going to increase gradually, as business will grow and society becomes more mobile in those areas.

Now let's move back to highways strictly
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How is the progress going on S1 DSU from Myslowice to Bielsko-Biala? I guess it must a priority. Plus wiki says there is(or at least was) some money to carry out a tender for A18 motorway for 2011-2015, GDDKiA in Zielona Gora said. A nice addition to the motorway system. I guess people from Berlin go via S3 to Wroclaw. Maybe it would be nice to change those concrete slabs, uh? Tired of driving 70 on a two-lane in the forest with not a village. Why the company reconstructing the north part didn't take south? And the last: S8 looks pretty strange, and abrupts like 30 km apart at a very bad angle indeed. Was it initially planned or there were other choices?

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What the hell? This is some of the most pointless bickering I've ever seen.

The last section of the A4 is under construction. Works are already well advanced; you can trace it on Google Earth if you care to. To wit. I don't know when it'll be open ... but it's obviously "soon". So quit kvetching.
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How is the progress going on S1 DSU from Myslowice to Bielsko-Biala? I guess it must a priority. Plus wiki says there is(or at least was) some money to carry out a tender for A18 motorway for 2011-2015, GDDKiA in Zielona Gora said. A nice addition to the motorway system. I guess people from Berlin go via S3 to Wroclaw. Maybe it would be nice to change those concrete slabs, uh? Tired of driving 70 on a two-lane in the forest with not a village. Why the company reconstructing the north part didn't take south? And the last: S8 looks pretty strange, and abrupts like 30 km apart at a very bad angle indeed. Was it initially planned or there were other choices?
so I far I have not taken part in your conversation.
I admire Ukrainian nation a lot, so did not want to start playing you game.
but please before you post new thoughts here... think twice what kind of badge you can get in return.
all you do is just disheartening us for further converstion.
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