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Old December 5th, 2015, 11:24 PM   #14981
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Just when we thought we were going to get a good road network...
If the A and S roads now under construction will be completed, the system of A and S roads would then be complete enough to be called a "network". So I think the big question is whether or not contracts will be cancelled.
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Old December 6th, 2015, 12:01 AM   #14982
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If the A and S roads now under construction will be completed, the system of A and S roads would then be complete enough to be called a "network". So I think the big question is whether or not contracts will be cancelled.
The new boss would have to be a titanic-scale idiot to do that...at this point existing contracts are well in design and build phases, no?

Much more likely we see a pivot in which roads get priority for the next phase. That would be more roads in eastern Poland, I take it?
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Old December 6th, 2015, 01:52 PM   #14983
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S19 Lublin West bypass near junction 'Lublin Sławinek':

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Old December 6th, 2015, 02:02 PM   #14984
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Is the S2 extension in Warsaw still planned to start this year?
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Old December 6th, 2015, 02:10 PM   #14985
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There are delays in signing contracts. There is no chance to start contruction works in this year.
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Old December 6th, 2015, 03:18 PM   #14986
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The new boss would have to be a titanic-scale idiot to do that...at this point existing contracts are well in design and build phases, no?

Much more likely we see a pivot in which roads get priority for the next phase. That would be more roads in eastern Poland, I take it?
Don't discount the possibility of Poles screwing it up for themselves when times are good

But actually, I suspect we might see some blatant populism - they don't need to build roads in eastern Poland to get votes, but we might see things like the S11 in southern Wielkopolska being tendered as well as an extension of the S5 across Mazury and even some blatant unnecessary building in the Trójmiasto area.
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Old December 6th, 2015, 03:38 PM   #14987
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Old December 6th, 2015, 05:59 PM   #14988
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There are delays in signing contracts. There is no chance to start contruction works in this year.
No signed contract yet? What is the reason?
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Old December 10th, 2015, 06:36 PM   #14989
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If the A and S roads now under construction will be completed, the system of A and S roads would then be complete enough to be called a "network". So I think the big question is whether or not contracts will be cancelled.
http://wyborcza.biz/biznes/1,100896,...cal#BoxBizLink

^ an article in Polish saying that many contracts have to be cancelled because of the lack of money. The PIS administration says the road building programme approved in September was just a handfull of unrealistic promises. The new era has just begun
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Old December 10th, 2015, 10:02 PM   #14990
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^ an article in Polish saying that many contracts have to be cancelled because of the lack of money.
... lack of bribe money.
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Old December 10th, 2015, 11:24 PM   #14991
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Nope. Other government, other priorities. Golden age of road construction in Poland is over.
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Old December 10th, 2015, 11:51 PM   #14992
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I can't believe it , there is still a huge lack of motorways in Poland - the network is far from being completed, even a lot of bypasses of smaller villages/towns between big cities aren't existing!

After all, what's matter more than to improve safety by reducing road deaths and tragedies, and to improve the comfort, speed, ease of use for everyone, including for the economy ?
All of that could be achieved by a proper expressways network .
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Old December 11th, 2015, 05:51 AM   #14993
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I think the main arteries linking key cities will get built. The Polish people have spoken, well the 19% who voted for PIS, they want a better life, more money and security and maybe less lavish infrastructure. Those in the silent majority who didn't want this but didn't vote can only blame themselves, they have been watching Jaroslaw Kaczynski for years, should know who he is by now.
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Contracts for design and construction of S2 motorway (south-eastern part of Warsaw ringroad) have been signed today.

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Old December 11th, 2015, 01:13 PM   #14995
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Is there any Ssc.Viacom renovation or it's stuck? I can't see their progress since October 5.
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Old December 11th, 2015, 01:31 PM   #14996
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Contracts for design and construction of S2 motorway (south-eastern part of Warsaw ringroad) have been signed today
When the news hit me, I went like this:

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Old December 11th, 2015, 04:02 PM   #14997
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The Polish people have spoken, well the 19% who voted for PIS, they want a better life, more money and security and maybe less lavish infrastructure.
I hope that you don't have in mind better roads and a proper motorway network .

Btw., PiS like to take example from Orban, still I cannot see a better life "change" (just like in PL: unemployement plus "low" salaries and a subordinate work culture>high emigration rate, low exchange rate for the Florint, etc.) or a lightening increase on salaries for Hungarian people. Maybe, security is good (migration crisis in mind), but it was already before he came (like in Poland, except for road traffic). I believe though, that PiS is more "populist" than Fidesz (per ex., lowering taxes, but spending more money).
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Old December 11th, 2015, 05:18 PM   #14998
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don't get me wrong I'm no PIS supporter, but I think road network might get fully built but later, they want to change their priorities to addressing quality of life and demographic crisis, which is definitely a crisis, given how Poles have such an in-born bias against living in Poland. Poles always find or create reasons to emigrate, it's genetic. They have an inferiority complex about living in Poland. Better roads won't change that. If we could root out the negativity in Polish people, maybe this will make them happier than new roads
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S19 Lublin West bypass:

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Old December 11th, 2015, 08:42 PM   #15000
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Road safety statistics for November 2015

November

Number of road accidents

- 2015: 2.735
- 2014: 2.588
- 2013: 2.989


Road fatalities

- 2015: 238
- 2014: 269
- 2013: 293


Number of wounded

- 2015: 3.224
- 2014: 3.005
- 2013: 3.595

January-November

Number of road accidents

- 2015: 29.794
- 2014: 31.585
- 2013: 32.529

Road fatalities

- 2015: 2.586
- 2014: 2.869
- 2013: 3.035


Number of wounded

- 2015: 36.121
- 2014: 38.509
- 2013: 40.042

http://statystyka.policja.pl/st/ruch...esiecznym.html
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