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Old June 12th, 2016, 07:32 AM   #15621
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Looking at the drawing it does make sense to me.
DK8 won't be directly connected to S8 and those two roundabouts make sense.
But what is the sense of such reconstruction??? It is just waste of money.
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Old June 12th, 2016, 09:34 AM   #15622
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It make sense. The old S8 allignment won't be connected with new road directly. Look at the map, the last section will be demolished.
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Old June 12th, 2016, 10:20 AM   #15623
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It is just waste of money.
Maintenance of needless buildings is also waste of money.
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Which new motorways are currently under construction?
Which new motorways will be opened next?

See 'New motorway projects' thread

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Old June 13th, 2016, 08:58 PM   #15624
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Old June 13th, 2016, 09:25 PM   #15625
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Road Safety Statistics for May 2016

Number of road accidents

- 2016: 3.132
- 2015: 2.657
- 2014: 2.961
- 2013: 3.049
- 2012: 3.254
- 2011: 3.666

Road fatalities

- 2016: 235
- 2015: 194
- 2014: 238
- 2013: 267
- 2012: 272
- 2011: 341

Number of wounded

- 2016: 3.836
- 2015: 3.268
- 2014: 3.654
- 2013: 3.688
- 2012: 4.038
- 2011: 4.604

January-May

Number of road accidents

- 2016: 11.906
- 2015: 11.947
- 2014: 12.532
- 2013: 11.585
- 2012: 13.257
- 2011: 13.823

Road fatalities

- 2016: 1.010
- 2015: 1.045
- 2014: 1.105
- 2013: 1.043
- 2012: 1.261
- 2011: 1.364

Number of wounded

- 2016: 14.456
- 2015: 14.400
- 2014: 15.271
- 2013: 14.241
- 2012: 16.488
- 2011: 17.238


http://statystyka.policja.pl/st/ruch...esiecznym.html
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Old June 14th, 2016, 01:53 AM   #15626
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S7 - Eastern bypass of Krakow



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Old June 15th, 2016, 12:08 AM   #15627
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I'm guessing the huge jump in injuries, fatalities and accidents in May was because of the two long weekends, which are traditional killing grounds on Polish roads?
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Old June 15th, 2016, 08:43 AM   #15628
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That`s possible reason of the huge jump in injuries.
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Old June 15th, 2016, 06:41 PM   #15629
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The other possible explanation is last year' decision to liquidate hundreds of radars controlling speed
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Old June 15th, 2016, 10:05 PM   #15630
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Why the did that?
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Old June 15th, 2016, 10:15 PM   #15631
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This is a good question.
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Old June 15th, 2016, 10:48 PM   #15632
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The other possible explanation is last year' decision to liquidate hundreds of radars controlling speed
The radars were hold by Municipal Police in small villages (cities). They were situated in strange places to make money to the municipality (...)
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Old June 15th, 2016, 11:11 PM   #15633
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In Poland each municipality is allowed to ground a local police (it's not obligatory), which isn't allowed to do some things the state police can do, but they were allowed to control the speed of the drivers. In many municipalities it happened so that a municipal police has been grounded only in order to put a speed camera, often in places where speeding is not really dangerous and the speed limit is there mainly due to the historical reasons rather than for any real need. Just to make financial profit for the municipality.

It seems the municipal police is no longer allowed to use radars and speed cameras to control the drivers' speed from the beginning of 2016.

Earlier, in 2014, another law came out - from that time it's no longer allowed to use dummy speed cameras, they have to be real devices. And they have to be yellow, so that they are easily seen from a higher distance.
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Old June 15th, 2016, 11:41 PM   #15634
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The other possible explanation is last year' decision to liquidate hundreds of radars controlling speed
I don't think so, because they were well signed - it's safe to say that they don't really discourage drivers from speeding, and they also don't catch the multitude of crimes that your average Polish driver is guilty of committing.

Having said that, I'll be shocked if 2017 ends without a new law allowing the use of unmarked speed cameras combined with massive increases in fines.
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Old June 16th, 2016, 12:39 AM   #15635
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I'm guessing the huge jump in injuries, fatalities and accidents in May was because of the two long weekends, which are traditional killing grounds on Polish roads?
or the psychological effect of losing driving license after exceeding the speed limit by 50 stopped working
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Old June 16th, 2016, 02:04 AM   #15636
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or maybe speed isn't a problem and it is something else

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In Poland each municipality is allowed to ground a local police (it's not obligatory), which isn't allowed to do some things the state police can do, but they were allowed to control the speed of the drivers. In many municipalities it happened so that a municipal police has been grounded only in order to put a speed camera, often in places where speeding is not really dangerous and the speed limit is there mainly due to the historical reasons rather than for any real need. Just to make financial profit for the municipality.

It seems the municipal police is no longer allowed to use radars and speed cameras to control the drivers' speed from the beginning of 2016.

Earlier, in 2014, another law came out - from that time it's no longer allowed to use dummy speed cameras, they have to be real devices. And they have to be yellow, so that they are easily seen from a higher distance.
I remember a case in the US where a town was basically only existing to steal money from people in this way, and the leaders were heavily corrupt (and even the reduced speed limit for the 300 m length of the town was illegal...)
Eventually the state was able to dissolve the municipality

a nice article about it:
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/town-without-pity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Rome,_Ohio
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Old June 16th, 2016, 11:04 AM   #15637
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Hopefully the opening of A1 will give impetus to constructing the rest of the S14 Łódź western bypass so as to complete the full A2/A1/S8/S14 ring around Łódź
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Old June 17th, 2016, 04:12 PM   #15638
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S52. So this is really happening? How about people of Zielonki that were against building expressway through their territory? Are they convinced now?
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Old June 17th, 2016, 07:58 PM   #15639
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Result of AADT measurement in 2015 on provincial roads (DW) was published:

http://www.gddkia.gov.pl/userfiles/a...2015_DK_DW.pdf
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Old June 17th, 2016, 08:03 PM   #15640
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Other propositions of GDDKiA and SSC users:
- S46 Częstochowa - Kielce
Obviously, if the S46 will be built between Klodzko and Częstochowa (or between Klodzko and Kielce), it would be possible and perhaps sensible to extend it westward to the CZ border in the direction of Hradec Kralove and Prague (perhaps near the DK8 alignment) despite the difficult terrain. The S46, if built, would lie along the Prague - Kiev axis and would probably become part of the preferred route for Prague - Kiev traffic. That suggests the possibility a further eastward extension of the S46 to Lublin, which would ease possible future congestion on the S7 and S12 by bypassing Radom. To the extent that the EU might be interested in improving connections to Ukraine (as well as development of eastern Poland), there might be EU funding for such extensions. By the time the S46 would be built between Klodzko and Częstochowa, Ukraine might be well along the path of accession to the EU.
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