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Old June 26th, 2016, 01:17 PM   #15681
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But I was driving on the DK14 yesterday near Stryków - and even with the open tolls, there was a jam stretching back to the exit from the motorway. For that reason, in the long term, the only feasible solution is electronic tolling.
Speaking of the Stryków interchange between A2 and DK14, i have high hopes that the eternal jam here will be cleared up with the opening og the new A1 stretch. It seems to me that at present a simple roundabout has too low capacity to handle the demand.
a lot of traffic that now use this motorway access will instead choose other points along the new stretch. And of course long distance traffic will not have to drive through here either, so the traffic will come down quite a bit.
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Old June 27th, 2016, 02:52 PM   #15682
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There is no confirmation as far I know.
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Old June 27th, 2016, 09:56 PM   #15683
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I think A1 from Stryków to Tuszyn should remain toll free because like the A2 south of Poznań it acts as a city bypass road (for Łódź)
A2 from Emilia to Łódź Północ also acts as a city bypass and it's not toll free. So it's difficult to say how it will be.

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What is the reason that Warsaw and Krakov won't be connected directly by a motorway?
"S" roads (expressways) are of almost such a standard as the "A" roads (motorways), there is no much difference.

A more weird issue is the Warsaw bypass, which is being built as an expressway, not a motorway. Even though its southern sections belongs to the national road "2" and it's somehow a part of the A2 motorway, it's only an expressway, marked as S2.

Supposedly because of people's protests. Why did they prefer an expressway rather then not much different motorway, I don't know. Maybe because all the expressways built until now has been toll free and motorways, even as city bypasses, happen to be not toll free, even though there is actually no law that would say that expressway must be toll free.

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It would be very strange if the S8 section between the A1 and DK1 were not opened at the same time as the A1.
It's impossible

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It would make sense at least to introduce tolls on the Łódź-Gdańsk A1 section and to integrate it with the A2 tolls, as the infrastructure is already there and waiting. But I was driving on the DK14 yesterday near Stryków - and even with the open tolls, there was a jam stretching back to the exit from the motorway. For that reason, in the long term, the only feasible solution is electronic tolling.
The DK14 case has nothing to do with tolls. That traffic jams are due to the missing A1 section, the one which is gonna be opened within the next month. The roundabout through which the traffic from the highway has to pass was not designed for such a high traffic, because it was supposed to be just a local highway exit, not a part of the main north-south road in the country - the function of which it plays now (A1-A2-this roundabout-DK14-Łódź-DK1-A1).

If you go from Łódź and you want to enter the A2, and you meet a traffic jam, it's often useful to take this detour: https://goo.gl/maps/rGLvJFbtYdK2 - although I am probably telling it too late, since the traffic jam will no longer be present here in a short time. In the reverse direction it's much worse, you just have to use another exit from the highway.

It's especially bad on Friday afternoons (the traffic jam happens to reach even the city borders) - then it's usually much better to avoid the exit from Łódź via DK14 at all and use Łagiewnicka street and DK71 instead.
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Old June 27th, 2016, 10:30 PM   #15684
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Forgive me, I had forgotten that A2 from Emilia to Łódź Północ also acts as a city bypass for Łódź
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Old June 28th, 2016, 05:25 PM   #15685
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A more weird issue is the Warsaw bypass, which is being built as an expressway, not a motorway. Even though its southern sections belongs to the national road "2" and it's somehow a part of the A2 motorway, it's only an expressway, marked as S2.
I guess that the reason is in distance between exits (expressways have this distance shorter, which makes bypass more available for local people in agglomeration) and maybe in curve radius ("S" roads can have tighter curves than motorways)
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Old June 28th, 2016, 07:49 PM   #15686
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Forgive me, I had forgotten that A2 from Emilia to Łódź Północ also acts as a city bypass for Łódź
Actually it does not, what kind of traffic would use this section of A2 for bypassing Łódź?
It will start to be a bypass (for DK91) after A1 gets opened.
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Old June 28th, 2016, 09:19 PM   #15687
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Actually it does not, what kind of traffic would use this section of A2 for bypassing Łódź?
It will start to be a bypass (for DK91) after A1 gets opened.
Pardon me for my mistake again. With only 3 days until the official confirmed opening this matter is pointless for discussion now anyway.
Let's just focus on celebrating what will be an important date for Polish highways
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Old June 28th, 2016, 09:31 PM   #15688
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Tomorrow two contracts will be signed for construction of S7 "Zakopianka" motorway:

S7: Lubień – Naprawa 7.6km (July 2016 to October 2018) – ? – map
S7: Naprawa - Skomielna Biala 3.0km (July 2016 to December 2020) – ? – map

The second section includes a tunnel, this is why it will take so much time to complete.
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Old June 29th, 2016, 01:29 AM   #15689
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Around 40 km of A1 eastern bypass of Łódź is due to open soon, most likely end of this week. The paint is nearly dry, paperwork sign-offs are well advanced, champagne is chilling in the fridge. Here is a taster:




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Old June 29th, 2016, 04:48 AM   #15690
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A4. Sample of terribly overspent money for noise barriers along motorway.
Silver lining here is that someone got sober and didn't install another noise barriers along newly renovated rail tracks:

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Several trains on the newly modernized section of LK91 (E30) railroad between Brzesko and Tarnów.
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Old June 29th, 2016, 04:13 PM   #15691
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I noticed this year that those green noise barriers are not as effective like in other countries even if they are quite tall.
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Old June 29th, 2016, 11:49 PM   #15692
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Old June 30th, 2016, 02:06 AM   #15693
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Actually it does not, what kind of traffic would use this section of A2 for bypassing Łódź?
It will start to be a bypass (for DK91) after A1 gets opened.
The DK72 road. Although it's meaning is purely local and the main west-east road in the country, before the A2 was buit, had been the current DK92 through Krośniewice and Kutno (Kutno with a bypass of this town; the bypass of Krośniewice was built just a few years ago).
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Old June 30th, 2016, 07:46 AM   #15694
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I have a question: is DW 358 from Trzciniec Dolny to Sieniawka(near Bogatynia) open?
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Old June 30th, 2016, 01:33 PM   #15695
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I have a question: is DW 358 from Trzciniec Dolny to Sieniawka(near Bogatynia) open?
Yes, if you mean DW354. When travelling southbound, is is also quite a scenic route, just don't look behind you or to your left (you'll know why when you get there). I recommend visiting the PL-CZ-D border tri-point (styk granic) near Porajów.



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I noticed this year that those green noise barriers are not as effective as in other countries ...
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Old June 30th, 2016, 02:37 PM   #15696
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Yes, if you mean DW354. When travelling southbound, is is also quite a scenic route, just don't look behind you or to your left (you'll know why when you get there).
It is said it has very bad quality(OSM). Is it true, or it is already repaired?
I know why not to look left: Kopalnia Węglowa Turów
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Old July 1st, 2016, 10:40 AM   #15697
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A big day for Poland today
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Old July 1st, 2016, 12:19 PM   #15698
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Old July 1st, 2016, 12:38 PM   #15699
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Old July 1st, 2016, 12:48 PM   #15700
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Today test drive for journalists :
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