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Old September 7th, 2016, 11:06 AM   #15941
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Who cares?!
Don't you have any other problems?
I didn't know this subforum was only for life-and-death serious issues.
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Old September 7th, 2016, 11:33 AM   #15942
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This thread is not meant to grumble because of irrelevant crap, right?
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Old September 7th, 2016, 01:00 PM   #15943
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Google Maps for some reason is back in showing only "A" roads in Poland as a "proper" and only motorways when zoomed out.... "S" - expressways even that they would be consider as motorways standard everywhere else in Europe look in Google Maps just like regular roads. In results Poland is a road desert in Europe according to them...
I don't think that any online map shows Polish S roads the same way as Polish A roads... and yes, I agree that it is nonsense.

(But if you take a closer look at S7 south of Kraków and S8 Wrocław - Oleśnica, they are displayed as "A" roads... I somehow managed to change that on GMaps)

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Unfortunately, the list contains 2x2 and 1x4 roads. Are the underlined roads 2x2?
No, it just indicates what was updated.
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Old September 7th, 2016, 01:02 PM   #15944
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Google Maps for some reason is back in showing only "A" roads in Poland as a "proper" and only motorways when zoomed out.... "S" - expressways even that they would be consider as motorways standard everywhere else in Europe look in Google Maps just like regular roads. In results Poland is a road desert in Europe according to them...
This dates to a few years back, and is actually due to a problem with the Polish mappers at OpenStreetMap. They insisted they want motorways with the "S" standard mapped as inferior roads. I tried to talk sense into them, but had to give up.

Now Google copies OSM without much editing, if any.
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Old September 7th, 2016, 02:09 PM   #15945
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A roads and S roads are very close, both are 2x2 (usually), but S roads didn't have much infrastructure like A roads
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Old September 7th, 2016, 02:20 PM   #15946
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This thread is not meant to grumble because of irrelevant crap, right?
I think it's relevant. I don't know if there is a Google Maps thread anywhere, but the issue certainly concerns Polish Roads, and it really wouldn't pain you to expend the few millijoules required to scroll past his comment to the next one.
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Old September 7th, 2016, 03:36 PM   #15947
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Google Maps for some reason is back in showing only "A" roads in Poland as a "proper" and only motorways when zoomed out.... "S" - expressways even that they would be consider as motorways standard everywhere else in Europe look in Google Maps just like regular roads. In results Poland is a road desert in Europe according to them...
Google maps shows motorways first in every European country. It's not an issue in Poland too. Their route planner works very well and includes A and S roads in the first places. Google doesn't have to and won't make any exceptions, because someone feels insecure about how his country looks on the maps.
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Old September 7th, 2016, 03:48 PM   #15948
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Google doesn't have to and won't make any exceptions, because someone feels insecure about how his country looks on the maps.
That is nothing to do with feeling insecure... Google Maps showed before S and A on the same level, now they switching back... Would be good if they stick to one rules instead of switching back and forward. And yes, because it is called S it doesn't mean it is not to be showed as motorways because some whatever open street maps morons decided to do so. Just dig a bit and look at what ridiculously crappy roads are marked as motorways in some other countries. So where is consistency? If you treat each country separately that may be OK but if you have open whole map of Europe or other wider region in front of you then it is simply incorrect and makes people confused. BUT, of course it is only for those who cares. I do.
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Old September 7th, 2016, 05:01 PM   #15949
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S7 - Krakow bypass

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Old September 7th, 2016, 05:04 PM   #15950
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Google Maps for some reason is back in showing only "A" roads in Poland as a "proper" and only motorways when zoomed out.... "S" - expressways even that they would be consider as motorways standard everywhere else in Europe look in Google Maps just like regular roads. In results Poland is a road desert in Europe according to them...
Sadly the same happens with Spanish autovías since the last update of the site. Although only autopistas are shown in Google Maps as proper motorways, both autopistas (the Spanish equivalent to Polish "A" roads) and autovías (the Spanish equivalent to Polish "S" expressways) have currently motorway standards (newly built autovías are even better than old autopistas). That's why Spain also looks like a road desert in Google Maps.
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Old September 7th, 2016, 05:28 PM   #15951
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Spain is a good example. I was about to point your country out. Thanks for comment!
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Old September 7th, 2016, 05:53 PM   #15952
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Skrzyżowanie autostrad w Polsce
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A1/A2 i A4/A1:


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Old September 7th, 2016, 06:17 PM   #15953
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Google Maps for some reason is back in showing only "A" roads in Poland as a "proper" and only motorways when zoomed out.... "S" - expressways even that they would be consider as motorways standard everywhere else in Europe look in Google Maps just like regular roads. In results Poland is a road desert in Europe according to them...
I have stopped seeing Google Maps as reference for a while now. They just colour the way they like to see it but without any practical thought in mind. It basically went from a website to explore every corner of the world to a app for questions like "where is the closest supermarket" only optimalised for androids. Speed went backwards a long time ago.

If you want to see a good map (no satellite views however), go to Openstreetmap.
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Old September 7th, 2016, 07:01 PM   #15954
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S19 Western Lublin bypass:

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Old September 7th, 2016, 10:42 PM   #15955
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[SIZE=4]Skrzyżowanie autostrad w Polsce
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A1/A2 i A4/A1:
The picture of A1/A4/44 interchange Gliwice Sośnica is very old. There is no A1 motorway the north of it.
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Old September 7th, 2016, 10:58 PM   #15956
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A roads and S roads are very close, both are 2x2 (usually), but S roads didn't have much infrastructure like A roads
The point is that S roads meet in 99% cases the common international criteria for motorways.

I can show you a number of sections in Germany that are worse, or even that aren't an Autobahn, but are marked as such. First example: A620 that doesn't meet any criteria: https://goo.gl/maps/FmB3ncxWBBC2
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Old September 7th, 2016, 11:03 PM   #15957
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Construction of S8 near Zambrów. DK8 here is an old concrete road constructed by the Germans that was later covered by asphalt. Now it ceases to exist.

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If you want to see a good map (no satellite views however), go to Openstreetmap.
You can easily switch from OSM to Google Satellite or Bing Satellite. Just use the best-in-class-map: http://wikimapia.org.
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Which new motorways are currently under construction?
Which new motorways will be opened next?

See 'New motorway projects' thread

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Old September 9th, 2016, 05:30 PM   #15959
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Construction works are starting on the A1 Częstochowa bypass. There are traffic jams on DK1 at the site of Częstochowa-North intrechange because only 1x2 lanes are available

A1: Częstochowa-North – Częstochowa-Blachownia 20.3km (September 2016 to April 2019) – projectmap
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Old September 10th, 2016, 08:00 PM   #15960
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There are traffic jams on DK1 at the site of Częstochowa-North intrechange because only 1x2 lanes are available
That's a bad plan!! I hope that temporary arrangement will be for a very short time.
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