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Old August 16th, 2017, 06:58 PM   #16481
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DK74 Kielce



1. Kielce West interchange. The city's western bypass (S7), opened in 1984 with only one carriageway, was rebuilt between 2010 and 2013. Works included adding a second carriageway, rest areas and reconstruction of interchanges.


2. The interchange was constructed in anticipation of the S74 future alignment - its beginning is visible on the left side of the picture.


3. The interchange also serves as a convienent access to Kielce Trade Fairs (Targi Kielce) - ranked second in Central and Eastern Europe with regards to the number of exhibitors and to exhibition space leased.


4. 2 kilometers of shame. The city won't upgrade it, because it's supposed to be an expressway some time in this century, but apart from countless assurances and promises (from both local and central government), the documentation is still in very early stages (they haven't still applied for environmental decision).


5. DK74 runs to the left and it's dual carriageway all the way up.


6. The Kielce Technology Park (Kielecki Park Technologiczny), accesible from DK74 here, consists of a Cluster of Technological Incubators and a Technology Centre.


pictures' source: http://plus.echodnia.eu/swietokrzysk...nek-1,12339900
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Old August 16th, 2017, 10:55 PM   #16482
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Very nice. It makes a 'dull' concrete structure much more visible and aesthetic at night.

A lot of money is spent on public space aesthetics like railroad stations or parks. But road infrastructure, with thousands or even over one hundred thousand of users per day is often given little thought. It's nice to see Poland breaking that spell.
Poland in general is unfortunate with aesthethics, as there is too much color in public space.

In case of infrastructure it all depends on how do they use colors on it. They either make overpases light grey and put some color as an accent which is a good solution or color the concrete all the way from down to top. And that is just awful.

Thankfully they put more attention to aesthetics nowadays. Colors are not necessary unless used reasonably. But white and light grey shadows are usually safe to use anywhere.
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Old August 17th, 2017, 04:07 PM   #16483
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I found 2 interesting videos, showing A18 before the existence of interchange "Krzyzowa":

Old interchange "Krzyzowa", which was cancelled after connection to A4:


Interchange "Krzywa"/ "Wyjazd 87" (A18) (old A4/A18 connection):
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Old August 17th, 2017, 06:51 PM   #16484
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Today, 3 project & build contracts for S7 expressway between Warszawa and Grójec (total length of appr. 29 km) have been signed. This section is new expressway standard exit from Warszawa towards Kraków.
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Old August 18th, 2017, 06:21 AM   #16485
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it's quite funny that A18/DK18 is marked as a motorway on the majority of maps. Nowadays, it is not even compliant with an expressway standard.
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Old August 18th, 2017, 11:25 PM   #16486
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In one direction - Poland -> Germany - it is (from 2006), in the other (Germany -> Poland) it isn't. But officially it's not marked as a motorway in any of the directions, and therefore the maximum allowed speed even towards Germany is only 100 km/h.
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Old August 19th, 2017, 02:52 PM   #16487
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In one direction - Poland -> Germany - it is (from 2006), in the other (Germany -> Poland) it isn't. But officially it's not marked as a motorway in any of the directions, and therefore the maximum allowed speed even towards Germany is only 100 km/h.
However it is hard to find a car going below 120 km/h and 130-150 is a standard over there (of course only to the west).
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Old August 22nd, 2017, 07:19 PM   #16488
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S79 Warsaw

Dear all, I am staying in Warsaw on a business trip and I was quite surprised by the S79 near the airport as it ends abruptly in the north. I can't imagine how it would continue northbound, as there is an office building right after the end of the carriageway.
What was the concept, where will it go?
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Old August 22nd, 2017, 09:29 PM   #16489
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There are vague plans to extend that road so that it can carry traffic through the city, eventually beyond by connecting with a planned S7 access route in / out of the city. It won’t be an expressway although it will have an expressway-like standard (identical to the existing S8-DK7 connector near Janki). It is unknown when it’ll be built. You can check it out here: http://siskom.waw.pl/trasa-ns.htm .
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Old August 23rd, 2017, 09:29 AM   #16490
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Hi,

Has Igorsel map been moved again?
On this link it's two weeks old:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/...ka-igorsel.png
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His computer has been damaged. Polish forumers are actually collecting money for a new one: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=2023272
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Old August 23rd, 2017, 01:00 PM   #16492
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Wow the number of red sections is absolutely unreal. Surely that's the most roads being constructed in a single European country simultaneously ever? Do you know the number of U/C roads?
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Don`t take it seriously, it`s just propaganda...
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Old August 23rd, 2017, 01:10 PM   #16494
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What do you mean? Is the map incorrect?
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Old August 23rd, 2017, 01:11 PM   #16495
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Spain built 450 kilometers of new motorway per year between 1994 and 2014. From ~6,000 - 15,000 km.
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Spain built 450 kilometers of new motorway per year between 1994 and 2014. From ~6,000 - 15,000 km.
450 km a year is an insane figure. Kudos to them. The above map for Poland is still absolute porn, could stare at it for days
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In Spain's case that is a 20 year average. Poland may also reach near that figure in some years, but not every single year between, say, 2010 and 2030.
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What do you mean? Is the map incorrect?
Just joke.
To be honest, unfortunately current goverment slowed down many sections without real reason or beacuse of they need money for social purpose. I mean that most of the light brown (dark orange?) section should be marked as red (u/c) for one year at least as well (eg. S19 Lublin-Rzeszów, S61, S6 Koszalin-Słupsk-Gdańsk or S3).

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4The above map for Poland is still absolute porn
As I wrote above, there was a chance to get even better... terribly pity and shame...
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Old August 23rd, 2017, 01:37 PM   #16499
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Yeah it sucks if the government does that. Roads are the best investment to "social purposes" that one can find, let's hope that that sort of behaviour doesn't become a trend.

In any case, we should put the situation into perspective - most countries in the world (maybe even all) would love to see their road networks expanded at Poland's pace. Let's hope the development stays at a similar pace for the next decade or so and until completion
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Wow the number of red sections is absolutely unreal. Surely that's the most roads being constructed in a single European country simultaneously ever? Do you know the number of U/C roads?
Currently there are 1185.7 km of motorways in realization phase (this number includes both "red" and "violet" sections on the map)

Some historical data:

Motorways in construction


Motorways completed


(Red color is the sum of dual carriageway motorways, black color includes also half-profile motorways.)
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