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Old November 7th, 2017, 11:23 PM   #16661
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According to the Polish forum the missing piece of S7 from Rychnowo to Olsztynek may open on Monday 20th November 2017

That just leaves the gap of S7 Ostróda bypass to complete (this year?) so we will have a complete 145.5*km (90 miles) expressway from Elbląg in the north to the border of Warmia and Mazuria province at Napierki
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Old November 7th, 2017, 11:43 PM   #16662
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S61 - Szczuczyn - Raczki - otwarcie ofert na 3 zadania


Zadanie nr 1: odc. Szczuczyn - Węzeł Ełk Południe

Budżet : 725 141 435,64 zł

1. POLAQUA 534 249 499,25 zł
2. METROSTAV 538 391 126,16 zł
3. BUDIMEX 672 505 693,08 zł

Zadanie nr 2: odc. węzeł Ełk Południe - węzeł Wysokie (wraz z wyplotem w ciągu dk 16)

Budżet 729 593 516,50 zł

1. METROSTAV 565 407 216,12 zł
2. POLAQUA 613 232 718,71 zł
3. TRAKCJA, MOSTOSTAL Warszawa - 685 948 284,67 zł

Zadanie nr 3: odc. węzeł Wysokie - m. Raczki

Budżet : 637 840 995,86 zł

1. METROSTAV 370 711 168,93 zł
2. RUBAU POLSKA 417 585 000,00 zł
3. POLAQUA 426 104 802,17 zł

Wszystkie firmy zaoferowały ten sam czas realizacji : 29 m-cy
I noticed that Metrostav did some really low bids on these three contracts for S61, becoming the lowest in all but one. Some of these bids are hugely under budget and also lower than the other low bids.

However it also struck me that Strabag made some unrealistically high offers, above budget and far above the others. What is the strategy behind that? Strabag is an experienced constructor in Poland, right?
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Old November 8th, 2017, 10:32 AM   #16663
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Yeah, Strabag is one of the most experienced big construction company in PL.
Strabag has given high prices for above tender probably becauses this company had been
got a lot of contracts so far andits construction capacity is almost full for next cca. 3-4 years.

Concerning S61 tenders opening, I`m suppose the GDDKiA decisions will be as follow:
Task 1:
- first two bids to be rejected due to low price;

Task 2:
- first bid to be rejected due to low price;

Task 3:
- first bid to be rejected due to low price;

They are just my assumptions
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Old November 8th, 2017, 11:26 AM   #16664
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After six months of "drought" in terms of new projects, some tenders for national roads have been started recently:

DK73 upgrade to 2x2 south of Kielce (4.2 km)
DK46 bypass of Myślina, 1x2 (3.2 km)
Dk46 bypass of Niemodiln, 2x2/2+1 (11.5 km)
DK47 "Zakopianka" Rdzawka - Nowy Targ, motorway-like 2x2 (16.1 km)

Probably more projects are coming.

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Old November 8th, 2017, 08:39 PM   #16665
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New alignment of route 454 in Opole was opened today: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/50.7186/17.8909

Viaduct over a railway, with Opole power plant in the background


Fireworks


An unusual double roundabout (actually, one and half of a roundabout)


Bridge on Mała Panew, designed to look like an "older brother" of the neighbouring railway bridge


All four blue bridges in one photo




Source of photos: http://www.nto.pl/motofakty/na-droga...ecia,12656508/
http://opole.wyborcza.pl/opole/7,350...robna-jak.html
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Old November 8th, 2017, 11:36 PM   #16666
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S12 Puławy bypass

Interchange with S17


Direction Puławy


Junction Końskowola


Direction Puławy




Junction Puławy East


Section Puławy Azoty - Puławy East was partially opened to traffic a few weeks ago


Junction Puławy Azoty


Bridge on Wisła and junction Puławy Dęblińska, opened in 2008


Photos from contract website
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Old November 10th, 2017, 09:17 AM   #16667
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next week i´m going to on the trip bratislava-zilina-bialsko biala-czestochowa-lodz-torun-gdansk-warszawa-kielce-krakow-bratislava. we plan to drive the highways so i was wondering how is it with the toll in poland ? how and where to pay ? thanks !!!
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Old November 10th, 2017, 11:22 AM   #16668
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If car < 3,5t you need to pay at toll boots just on the most norther part on A1, b/n Toruń and Gdańsk (30 PLN ~ 7,15 EUR) --> a1.com.pl

But if you take A4 going b/n Kraków and Bratislava, you need to pay also for A4 b/n Kraków - Katowice (also toll booths - 20 PLN ~ 4,75 EUR) --> autostrada-a4.com.pl
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Old November 10th, 2017, 11:35 AM   #16669
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If car < 3,5t you need to pay at toll boots just on the most norther part on A1, b/n Toruń and Gdańsk (30 PLN ~ 7,15 EUR) --> a1.com.pl

But if you take A4 going b/n Kraków and Bratislava, you need to pay also for A4 b/n Kraków - Katowice (also toll booths - 20 PLN ~ 4,75 EUR) --> autostrada-a4.com.pl
thanks for info ! seems we will pay only for torun-gdansk part. we don´t take A4 (we just pass krakow from kielce down to zilina). looking forward to drive on your highways !!!
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Old November 10th, 2017, 11:58 AM   #16670
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So, from Kraków you are going to take DK7 south to Chyżne/Trstená bc?
Be careful when driving on DK1/S1, it can be kind of disaster, but there is not any better solution to avoid it. B/n Warszawa and Kraków I`m not sure to take DK7 is the best solutio...
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Old November 10th, 2017, 02:55 PM   #16671
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I would definitely recommend bypass Kielce and DK7 (unless you really have to go through Kielce / Krakow).

In my opinion it is better to use A2 / A1 / DK1 from Warsaw to Bielsko.
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Old November 10th, 2017, 03:36 PM   #16672
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According to the Polish forum the missing piece of S7 from Rychnowo to Olsztynek may open on Monday 20th November 2017

That just leaves the gap of S7 Ostróda bypass to complete (this year?) so we will have a complete 145.5*km (90 miles) expressway from Elbląg in the north to the border of Warmia and Mazuria province at Napierki

This opening of S7 (Rychnowo - Olsztynek) is delayed and will happen sometime after 20th November 2017

Progress seems to be quite slow
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Old November 11th, 2017, 12:36 AM   #16673
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That just leaves the gap of S7 Ostróda bypass to complete (this year?) so we will have a complete 145.5*km (90 miles) expressway from Elbląg in the north to the border of Warmia and Mazuria province at Napierki
I believe you meant Mazovia if we stick to english translation
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Old November 11th, 2017, 01:47 AM   #16674
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He meant "granica województwa warmińsko-mazurskiego".
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Old November 11th, 2017, 06:39 AM   #16675
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Recently, we talked about the names of cities in neighbouring countries on road signs and the way they should be presented. For non-Polish users the article below is about GDDKiA's project to introduce a new pattern of road signs. Cities in neighbouring countries are to be presented with 2 names; a Polish and a local one. The first name will be the Polish one and the 2nd name would the local one which should be written in brackets. For example; Praga (Praha) for Czech Prague. In case the city has a name written in a cyrylic alphabet the latin transcription will be provided.

http://www.rynekinfrastruktury.pl/wi...-zl-60615.html
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What is the point. If you're going to Prague, you'll eventually have to follow signs with 'Praha' anyway. This will only add clutter to the Polish signs.
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Old November 11th, 2017, 12:04 PM   #16677
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Personally, I can't see much point in it, but there are people claiming that if we are in Poland, we should use the Polish language.

A plus can be that if, say, someone Polish drives from Poland to Vilnius, not knowing its Lithuanian name, he will first see signs with "Wilno (Vilnius)", so he will learn to expect signs with "Vilnius" instead of "Wilno" in Lithuania.

For me, exchanging the old signs is a waste of money though. They should use the bilingual version only in case of new signs, that would be enough.
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Old November 11th, 2017, 12:08 PM   #16678
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Yeah, it was funny to see on polish GM e.g. SOLNOGRÓD instead of SALZBURG or GRADEC instead of GRAZ
Seeing Slovenian Beljak next to Villach at their signs is even funnier, as far as I'm concerned
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Normally road maps always use the original city names - in the language used in the specific city - and not the names from the languages of the country where the map was issued.

This way:
- even if you buy a foreign map, you have no problem reading it,
- the names on the map are compliant with the names on road signs.

Displaying the names on Google Maps only in the language dependent on the language version of Google Maps which is currently opened by the user is actually quite weird and may cause problems.

Big differences in the names are especially in Hungarian. They have totally different names for many cities. Probably having something to do with the past and the times when they belonged to Hungary or Austro-Hungary.

In Poland, we are quite liberal, and, for example, we don't call Kaliningrad Królewiec in Polish any more. Kaliningrad is just Kaliningrad nowadays. But I wonder what Germans do, because they use their old names for many Polish formerly-German cities - so do they also call Kaliningrad Königsberg then?

On the other hand, some towns in Germany especially close to the Polish border have Polish names, like Bautzen - Budziszyn, czy Cottbus - Chociebuż (there are also some with much bigger differences between the Polish and the German name) and those names exist and are still considered correct in Polish (unlike Królewiec)... Another thing is that Poles usually use the German names for the German cities in practice, often not even knowing the Polish one. You will for sure find many Poles in Aachen calling this city just Aachen and not even knowing it's called Akwizgran in Polish even though they live there. Unlike it is in the east, for which Poles usually use the Polish names.
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Old November 11th, 2017, 01:26 PM   #16680
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Som exonyms have a tendency to become in disuse after some time. Of course the main ones will remain (country names, capital cities, other historically important ones, etc.) but many smaller ones will be replaced by endonyms over time.

Sometimes there is only a minor difference between an exonym and endonym. Praga / Praha is only 1 letter difference. In Dutch, Bazel becomes less used because Basel sounds almost exactly the same and doesn't cause confusion. In Poland, Praga is also a large district in Warsaw (or Warszawa if you will )
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