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Old December 19th, 2008, 04:32 PM   #1821
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That's awesome news!
Looks like the only missing sections along A1 in 2012 will be Toruń - Stryków and the urban section Pyrzowice - Sośnica? Any news on that one? Any chance of completing it around 2012?
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Old December 19th, 2008, 05:16 PM   #1822
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Agreement on building A1 Łódź - Pyrzowice (180 km) was signed today
Definitely great news!
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Old December 19th, 2008, 07:40 PM   #1823
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Good news. When will construction start?
Depending on when the consortium will get money.
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Old December 19th, 2008, 07:58 PM   #1824
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Money should come soon, it is a really important route
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Old December 19th, 2008, 08:02 PM   #1825
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It makes no difference for banks though. Due to this, A2 Nowy Tomyśl - D won't start in April
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Old December 19th, 2008, 09:16 PM   #1826
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What was the barried to at least make part of Gierkówka in motorway standards at the time when it was constructed, lack of money ?
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Old December 19th, 2008, 09:33 PM   #1827
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What was the barried to at least make part of Gierkówka in motorway standards at the time when it was constructed, lack of money ?
Obviously! The rest of the debt money had to be spend for government's new, pointless factories and plants to show how developed Poland was (and to show socialism is the way )
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Old December 19th, 2008, 09:42 PM   #1828
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Well, it was more lack of time, Gierek insisted the road was finished untill given time.
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Old December 19th, 2008, 11:03 PM   #1829
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I understand, characteristics of communist investments... ridicilous speeding and catching up at cost of quality ?

'Budowę ukończono 115 dni przed terminem, na święto 22 lipca...''

Such sort of thing ?

Gierkówka had a chance to be a Polish 'Motorway of Brotherhood and Unity' or 'Dalnice Praha-Brno-Bratislava'

But it was only a national road...

What numbers it had at the time ?
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Old December 19th, 2008, 11:10 PM   #1830
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'Budowę ukończono 115 dni przed terminem, na święto 22 lipca...''
Yeah - July 22nd - National holiday of renaissance(sic!) of Poland, every bigger road was opened on that day
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Old December 19th, 2008, 11:17 PM   #1831
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I think, with bit better managament of borrowed money from West, Poland could build much more motorways
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Old December 19th, 2008, 11:27 PM   #1832
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The problem is that only after many, many years we realised how important those investments would have been back then. While building a motorway was a step ahead into further development of the country, it was factories and new industry that created new jobs (most of them were not needed or economically justified anyway).
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Old December 20th, 2008, 12:42 AM   #1833
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'Cosmic economy'

At least you can say some of Warsaw Ring Road was built Trasa AK and Trasa Toruńska
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Old December 20th, 2008, 12:08 PM   #1834
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Old December 20th, 2008, 12:53 PM   #1835
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Green = in operation
Red = U/C
Yellow = In development stage?
Blue = ??
Z&Z = ??
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yellow - tender
blue - eee... a few guys agreeded that road in this place won't harm the enviroment
Z&Z - tender for both design and construction
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Old December 20th, 2008, 01:32 PM   #1837
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What the heck pink means here ? A stage between agreement and actual construction ?
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Old December 20th, 2008, 02:45 PM   #1838
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What the heck pink means here ? A stage between agreement and actual construction ?
Yes!
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Old December 20th, 2008, 04:41 PM   #1839
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What the heck pink means here ? A stage between agreement and actual construction ?
Yes, but only in public-private partnership <PPP>. They have to clear up the financing issues by the banks and to complete building projects, before construction can begin.
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Old December 21st, 2008, 01:51 PM   #1840
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There is a mistake on the map posted by bebe2006 - the Stryków bypass
section of the A2 motorway is not under construction but is in use -
it opened on Monday 15th December 2008 so it should be in green instead of red
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