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Old November 24th, 2005, 12:55 AM   #1
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Stadium Costs

Does anybody else think this stadium offers amazing value for money? It cost £59 million in total for everything. Capacity is 53466 for German league games and 45600 for internationals. It's Borussia Mönchengladbach's stadium.
















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Old November 24th, 2005, 01:04 AM   #2
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Cracking value.

Sunderlands Stadium of Light cost £30M according to their website which is also a great deal compared to some of the more frivolous efforts around the world.

For all the talk on here about stadium design and aesthetics if you're trying to arrange 50,000 odd seats around a grass rectangle you've only got so many options after all.
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Old November 24th, 2005, 01:06 AM   #3
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For £126 million, Wales got this....







At 74,500 its the biggest stadium in the world with a fuly retractable roof.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Stadium
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Old November 24th, 2005, 01:20 AM   #4
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Wales stadium was very good value. Shame about the crap stand behind one of the goals. I think this had to be done because a rugby club wouldn't sell their land.
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Old November 24th, 2005, 03:22 AM   #5
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I quite like that end stand at the millenium stadium myself, its a focal point without being too far removed from the size/style of the other three sides. Really the only thing I'd find fault with it on the low incline of the bottom tier and the overhang of the second tier on it.

I think this shows that the idea that 60K is the optimum size for cost per seat with modern roofed stadia is probabley correct.
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Old November 24th, 2005, 11:19 PM   #7
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Nice stadium, it does the job. Have they had any big music acts play there yet?
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Old November 25th, 2005, 01:47 PM   #8
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im guess the reason for the difference in numbers, is because the bundesleage alows standing and UEFA only alows seating, correct?
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Old November 25th, 2005, 02:00 PM   #9
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Correct. The standing areas are converted to seats for UEFA/FIFA games. For every 2 standing places you get 1 seat.
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Old November 25th, 2005, 11:01 PM   #10
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For £126 million, Wales got this....
Just that? Is that number right?
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Old November 25th, 2005, 11:31 PM   #11
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Just that? Is that number right?
Yes it is beleive it or not.
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Old November 26th, 2005, 12:33 AM   #12
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Really really nice stadium.. man.. didnt knew it!!!
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Old November 26th, 2005, 05:46 AM   #13
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is ti going to be used in the world cup 2006??

in not is a shame, a great stadium
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Old November 26th, 2005, 09:04 AM   #14
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is ti going to be used in the world cup 2006??

in not is a shame, a great stadium
Nope.
Cologne is 40km away. Schalke 50km. And Dortmund at 80km.

That's enough conentration of stadia in the very west of Germany.
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Old December 1st, 2005, 04:41 PM   #15
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yeah thats deadly value for money. in Ireland we badly need to redevelop our national stadium into a 50k all seater but the proposals costs just keep on rising and rising. Now the cost per seat is projected to be the highest in Europe after Wembley but we will have nowhere near the luxuries yet to be enjoyed in the english capital.......
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Old December 1st, 2005, 05:32 PM   #16
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yeah thats deadly value for money. in Ireland we badly need to redevelop our national stadium into a 50k all seater but the proposals costs just keep on rising and rising. Now the cost per seat is projected to be the highest in Europe after Wembley but we will have nowhere near the luxuries yet to be enjoyed in the english capital.......
So what's the latest on the Lansdowne Road development, then? I thought it was already agreed and had received the green light.
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Old December 1st, 2005, 08:12 PM   #17
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The new stadium in Kielce, Poland is a really nice stadium and its not expensive at all. The capacity is 15 500 and it cost 40 mln zloty or 10.3 mln Euros. The team that is building it just made it into the Polish 1st division and this size of stadium is perfect for them. They are going to have sell out crowds when it is completed in March, 2006.




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Old December 1st, 2005, 08:16 PM   #18
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Wales stadium was very good value. Shame about the crap stand behind one of the goals. I think this had to be done because a rugby club wouldn't sell their land.
The original plan was to build the Millennium Stadium on the footprint of the old National Stadium and Cardiff Arms Park, which were built side-by-side perpdenicular to the River Taff...



...and build a new stadium for Cardiff RFC, who were happy to move. Unfortunately, it was pointed out that all the Lottery money that was being used for the project was to build a national stadium, and not a new ground for a rugby club as well. Hence the dodgy end.
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Old February 16th, 2007, 04:28 AM   #19
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Stadium Costs

Some very attractive and state of the art stadiums being built around the world at the moment, with prices that seem sky high... I'm wondering if any of the more in-the-know, architectural professionals, can give an idea of how much it would cost to construct a 'simple' stadium to the following (basic) specifications...

A simple rectangle consisting of four stands capable of seating 40000. It needs a simple roof with no supports to block line of sight from the seats to any part of the pitch. The corners of the stadium do not have to be filled. So, this is basically a larger version of Millwall's New Den, or (if cheaper) the basic bowl model as used by many of England's newer stadiums (Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Southampton, Darlington, etc.).

I know Sunderland and Boro built very cheaply - just curious as to what we believe such a stadium would cost 'today'.
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In Turkey it would cost around 40 mil dolars
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