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Old July 5th, 2008, 08:53 PM   #61
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Not a hope in hell(!)

It looks like Ashley is trying to sell Newcastle so who knows what their future looks like?
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Old July 6th, 2008, 05:27 AM   #62
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they'll probably finish in the top 12 in the future
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Old July 6th, 2008, 11:41 AM   #63
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a new stadium on the cheap should cost around 4000 euros a seat plus land acquisition in Europe!
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Old July 6th, 2008, 06:05 PM   #64
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Toronto's Skydome was purchased for $25 million CAD ($1 CAD = $1 USD)

Seats 60,000

but back in 1989 it cost over 600 million to build
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Old July 6th, 2008, 09:03 PM   #65
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National Stadium of Warsaw, around 0,5 bln e (capacity 55k)
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Old July 7th, 2008, 12:54 AM   #66
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Makes you wonder why Newcastle, just 10 miles away, would want to spend 300M GBP on adding 8,000 seats to St James Park
They tried about 10-15 years ago. Were going to move to the other side of the town moor, but the good people of Newcastle objected to progress for the football club and forced them to continue with expensive alterations to the existing stadium.

Back to my recurring theme though - the massive cost of 'special' stadia against the 'functional' bowls like the Stadium of Light - it's interesting to see Arsene Wenger saying that due to the new stadium work Arsenal will be required to raise more than they spend on transfers for the next 20 years.
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Old July 7th, 2008, 07:04 AM   #67
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arsenal don't spend much anyway

they look for french/african relative unknowns and transform them into stars

then sell them because they're too cheap to increase wages
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Old July 7th, 2008, 09:52 AM   #68
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Back to my recurring theme though - the massive cost of 'special' stadia against the 'functional' bowls like the Stadium of Light - it's interesting to see Arsene Wenger saying that due to the new stadium work Arsenal will be required to raise more than they spend on transfers for the next 20 years.
I believe that NOTW article was something of a fabrication taking alots of different quotes out of context.
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Old August 9th, 2008, 03:14 AM   #69
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Corona beer is building a new 30k stadium for $97 million called the New Corona Stadium in Mexico for FC Santos Laguna. Their previous stadium held around 20k. This new one will have some suites to soak the rich, and only one covered stand. I believe they play all their matches at night. Another HKS design.


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Old August 9th, 2008, 03:47 AM   #70
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HKS also built this for the Frisco High School football stadium and the FC Dallas in the MLS, Pizza Hut Stadium seats around 21k for $80 milion. The New Corona Stadium is a revamp of this stadium with more suites and the fourth stand. HKS again. I would assume a 40k stand would cost twice as much.


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Old August 9th, 2008, 11:03 PM   #71
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Corona beer is building a new 30k stadium for $97 million called the New Corona Stadium in Mexico for FC Santos Laguna. Their previous stadium held around 20k. This new one will have some suites to soak the rich, and only one covered stand. I believe they play all their matches at night. Another HKS design.

That's not the New Corona Stadium., this is the new Corona Stadium., Santos Laguna (the current mexican first division champion) plays it's matches sundays at 4 pm, when the sun hits hardest over Torreon's desertic region. It is a HKS design and, as well as Toronto's Skydome, it will have a Hotel that looks into the playing ground. Total cost: $97 Milliion USD,, very cheap because of the low construction wages in Mexico.








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Old August 10th, 2008, 02:48 AM   #72
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Thanks for the information. My information came from web sources, but I believe they were prelimary. Its still going to be a very fine stadium with much more development around the stadium. I wonder if they decide to enlarge this stadium at a later time, could they finish building a horseshoe upper deck leaving the end open for the hotel viewers?
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Old December 20th, 2008, 12:10 AM   #73
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Cost - (~177mln €)
contruction time - 21 months
Cost: Thank the lord for Polish workers
Construction time: optimistic
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Old December 20th, 2008, 12:25 AM   #74
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21 months sounds normal for such a stadium.
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21 months sounds normal for such a stadium.
24 months is achievable. 21 months is optimistic for a large stadium with facade and roof. thats if they work very hard. operational after 26/27 months if they keep up the pace and ensure all sub-contracts are dealt with on time, delivered on time, installed at a great pace etc.
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But 44k isn't large. Its a midsized stadium
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Old December 20th, 2008, 01:26 PM   #77
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Cost: Thank the lord for Polish workers
Could you explain what do you mean by these words, homie? If you think Polish workers are really cheap, believe me, you're wrong, obviously. For example:
Estádio José Alvalade, Portugal (50 528) for EURO 2004: Cost - 89 000 000 €
Hypo-Arena in Klagenfurt, Austria (32 000) for EURO 2008: Cost - 66 500 000 €
Stadion Miejski in Wrocław, Poland (44 000) for EURO 2012: Cost - 177 000 000 €
So, should I say, thank the lord for Austrian or Portuguese workers?

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Old December 20th, 2008, 02:00 PM   #78
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It's incredible..Almost 90mln € for 50k in 2001/02 and Almost 180mln € for 44k in 2009
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But 44k isn't large. Its a midsized stadium
Its my opinion. I'm only right 98% of the time haha
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Old December 20th, 2008, 05:57 PM   #80
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Could you explain what do you mean by these words, homie? If you think Polish workers are really cheap, believe me, you're wrong, obviously. For example:
Estádio José Alvalade, Portugal (50 528) for EURO 2004: Cost - 89 000 000 €
Hypo-Arena in Klagenfurt, Austria (32 000) for EURO 2008: Cost - 66 500 000 €
Stadion Miejski in Wrocław, Poland (44 000) for EURO 2012: Cost - 177 000 000 €
So, should I say, thank the lord for Austrian or Portuguese workers?
inflation?

In today's times and climate 177 million/ $231 million is a good price for a 44,000 seater being built in Europe.
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