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Old August 17th, 2009, 07:33 PM   #121
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As far I saw on the internet (And I've already posted about that in this thread), so correct me if I'm wrong :

Donbass : €175 million ($249m)
Lille : €700 million ($994m)
Stadium - $400 mln. + $30mln. - for the surroundings of the stadium (Park zone).
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Old August 17th, 2009, 07:50 PM   #122
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Thanks for infos !

but it won't change my defense (Lille stadium cost is still twice Donbass' one)

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Old August 17th, 2009, 08:40 PM   #123
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Thanks for infos !

but it won't change my defense (Lille stadium cost is still twice Donbass' one)
The cost doesn't really matter. You can build a bad stadium with a lot of money. The design and the technology of the stadium matters more.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 09:49 PM   #124
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Look at New York Yankees stadium for 1.5 billion, but it still looks like crap!
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Old August 17th, 2009, 09:53 PM   #125
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Exactly. Or the new giants stadium for billions of dollars.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 10:16 PM   #126
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The cost doesn't really matter. You can build a bad stadium with a lot of money. The design and the technology of the stadium matters more.
Of course, design is important, but the cost also, especially in France, because stadiums (most of them) are payed by municipalities/public authorities...... which means payed by our/MY taxes......

Since workers, here, have a decent salary, in a country where the purchasing power is one the higher of the planet, but also in a country where price indexes are very, very high .........
And since (about "technology") there is now in France, a very restrictive environmental policy (especially about stadiums), which of course, increases the final bill of that kind of constructions.
I'm 300% agree about environmental policy, renewable energy etc, but it has a cost, a huge one !

Conclusion: HUGE BILL (+ the "unknown" cost of the French Bureaucracy of course ).
So that's also why Lille stadium will be very expensive, despite its elegant and "technological" design !
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Old August 18th, 2009, 02:50 AM   #127
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Of course, design is important, but the cost also, especially in France, because stadiums (most of them) are payed by municipalities/public authorities...... which means payed by our/MY taxes......
That's terrible, sorry to hear that.
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Old August 19th, 2009, 01:11 AM   #128
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It seems like this thread is mostly soccer stadium costs but I will throw in Missouri's new indoor arena costs for comparison since they all should have similar labor/material costs.


Sprint Center, Kansas City (2007)(18,555)($276 million~euro 195 mil)


Chaifetz Arena, St. Louis (2008)(10,800)($80.5 Million ~ 57 Mil Euros


Mizzou Arena, Columbia (15,061)(2004)($75 Million ~53 Mil Euros)


JQH Arena, Springfield (2008)(11,000)($67 Million ~ 47 mil euros)
-doesn't include cost of new locker rooms/offices which should be built soon ; they are still using the ones in the old arena, they are connected at the basement level.
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Old August 19th, 2009, 04:10 AM   #129
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New national stadium Costa Rica capacity 35 000 ($83 million dolars)

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Old August 19th, 2009, 06:30 AM   #130
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Toronto's Skydome was purchased for $25 million CAD ($1 CAD = $1 USD)

Seats 60,000

by far one of the best values.
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Old August 19th, 2009, 06:49 AM   #131
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Monumental de Ate (80,000) - Lima Only $42 million



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Old August 20th, 2009, 03:00 AM   #132
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by far one of the best values.


cost $500 million to build in 1989
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Old August 21st, 2009, 03:08 PM   #133
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stadium cost inflation

A lots of stadium projects are unnecessarily expensive because the client starts with the architect's vision and then they find out how much it costs. You then go through a phase cost cutting and value engineering and you end up with a compromised stadium which is still expensive. The best way is to start with a design brief and a completely fixed budget based on what the client can afford and fund. You then work through "must have" versus "desirable" features to make sure you stay on budget. I know it sound blindingly obvious but I still find it shocking how many clubs don't start with a budget. An architect once said to me "Don't worry about the costs. In 10 years time they will have forgotten about the cost of the stadium and they will be left with a beautiful stadium". I said "in three years they will be bankrupt but the new owners will have a beautiful stadium".
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Old August 25th, 2009, 04:46 PM   #134
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For £126 million, Wales got this....



At 74,500 its the biggest stadium in the world with a fuly retractable roof.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Stadium

not anymore
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Old September 18th, 2009, 09:30 PM   #135
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World’s Most Expensive Stadiums


Design, innovation and capacity are just some of the key elements when building a stadium.
However, as impressive as it may be, there is a price to pay.
This is Forbes top 10 list of most expensive stadiums.


10. ANZ Stadium / Sydney Australia / $624 million




9. Lucas Oil Stadium / Indianapolis, USA / $675 million




8. Safeco Field / Seattle, USA / $656 million




7. Soldier Field / Chicago, USA / $714 million




6. The Emirates Stadium / London, England / $770 million




5. Rogers Centre / Toronto, Canada / $930 million




4. Stade de France / Paris, France / $974 million




3. Madison Square Garden / New York, USA / $1.1 billion




2. Olympic Stadium / Montreal, Canada / $1.4 billion




1. Wembley Stadium / London, England / $1.5 billion


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Old September 18th, 2009, 10:06 PM   #136
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The list is pointless. Stadium costs depend on may parameters, Beijing Bird's Nest cost was what, 400 million? If the same building was build in London it would cost 4 billion.
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Old September 19th, 2009, 06:34 AM   #137
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yup too many factors to compare.
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Old September 20th, 2009, 01:10 AM   #138
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And where is the new Dallas Cowboys stadium on your list?
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Old September 20th, 2009, 06:38 AM   #139
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this is Croatian and Zagreb's ''PRIDE''
PRIDE SEEMS TOO LOW
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Old September 20th, 2009, 04:55 PM   #140
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I don't know why ... but I think that's something wrong ...
I have a sure bibliographic source about "Stade de France" in Paris.
The cost, actualized in 1998 (opening year), is about € 290.000.000 (I say EUROS) ... too much different from 974.000.000 US dollars O_O ... I don't know!
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