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Old September 12th, 2010, 07:24 AM   #1241
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I wonder why Tiger doesn't fly to Brunei yet. They said back in 2007 that they would fly there in early 2008. They have the aircraft time, only a short flight, they wouldn't need any extra Airbus. Guess what they named the 20th Airbus...TurboTiger
The problem with Brunei is that hardly any O&D traffic exists between SIN and BWN. Traffic that exists, are those from the SQ network connecting to Brunei, or the other way round. Making things worse is that LCCs can't rely on Singaporean tourism like they do for various destinations cos' there's literally nothing to see in Brunei.

So really, there's no point for an LCC to come in.
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Old September 13th, 2010, 08:30 AM   #1242
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If THAI and Tiger go slow and steady with this, there's no reason why it shouldn't be approved. But then again, Tiger is unused to dealing with government bureaucracy...

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THAI Tiger under scrutiny
Monday, 13 September 2010

Thailand’s Transport Ministry has called on the management of Thai Airways International (THAI) to offer further information on the planned establishment of Thai Tiger Airways (TTA).

Senior executives from THAI will have to answer the Transport Ministry’s concerns about the set up and working of the proposed low cost airline after a recent letter from THAI failed to satisfy the Ministry’s questions, Transport Ministry secretary Supoj Saplom told the Bangkok Post.

Transport Minister Sohpon Zarum, who has been vocal of his opposition to TTA’s formation, reportedly told media that should the Ministry find the joint venture between THAI and Singapore-based Tiger Airways “not useful or lawful” the deal would be stopped.

According to the Bangkok Post, Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva last week publicly expressed his support for TTA, asking Mr Zarum “not to interfere with THAI management's decision” – a request Mr Zarum has ignored.

Many Thais in the industry have opposed the creation of TTA and have sent letters to the Transport Ministry expressing their worries, most fearing that Thailand would not benefit from the venture.

Former senior executive of THAI and respected aviator Jothin Pamon-Montri outlined his criticism of the deal in a letter to the Prime Minister which not only questioned TTA’s business outlook but also stated that TTA’s formation would give domestic air traffic rights to a foreign airline.

The potential entry of foreign Tiger Airways has been a concern shared by many, including some THAI shareholders, the newspaper reported.

THAI’s head rival, Singapore Airlines owns over a third of Tiger Airways and is itself controlled by the Singaporean government's investment arm, Temasek Holdings.

Most Thais link Temasek to their infamous fugitive former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, who made 73 billion baht in the controversial sale of his Thai Shin Corporation to Singaporean Temasek.

He was later found guilty of tax evasion though many believe the sale was indicative of his conflict of interest as Prime Minister.

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Old September 13th, 2010, 09:53 AM   #1243
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Tiger flying to Taipei starting 11th January 2011?
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Old September 13th, 2010, 12:23 PM   #1244
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The problem with Brunei is that hardly any O&D traffic exists between SIN and BWN. Traffic that exists, are those from the SQ network connecting to Brunei, or the other way round. Making things worse is that LCCs can't rely on Singaporean tourism like they do for various destinations cos' there's literally nothing to see in Brunei.
I think your analysis is a mite too pessimistic. Air Asia seems to be doing fine flying 3x/daily to KUL/BWI, and SQ/RBA also have 3x/daily combined to SIN, so surely there's demand for one cheap flight a day to Singapore?
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Old September 13th, 2010, 02:08 PM   #1245
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I think your analysis is a mite too pessimistic. Air Asia seems to be doing fine flying 3x/daily to KUL/BWI, and SQ/RBA also have 3x/daily combined to SIN, so surely there's demand for one cheap flight a day to Singapore?
According to my Bruneian friends, the Brunei govt is all too happy to remain a hermit kingdom; its pro-Muslim, pro-Malay ideals extend as the basis of its governance and policies. Therefore, they are much more likely to gravitate towards the opening up of flights to KL than Singapore. As a bigger international hub, flights from the latter would invite backpackers, and lower-class travelers to visit the country- all of which Brunei's govt is NOT looking to attract.

In addition, while AirAsia has flights to Brunei, fares are not what anyone would consider low-cost. It costs SGD 423 to fly Royal Brunei from SIN to Brunei, it costs SGD 360 to fly AirAsia from KL to Brunei... and I've seriously checked fares... as I told you, I HAVE friends to visit in Brunei.
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Old September 14th, 2010, 01:12 PM   #1246
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According to my Bruneian friends, the Brunei govt is all too happy to remain a hermit kingdom; its pro-Muslim, pro-Malay ideals extend as the basis of its governance and policies. Therefore, they are much more likely to gravitate towards the opening up of flights to KL than Singapore. As a bigger international hub, flights from the latter would invite backpackers, and lower-class travelers to visit the country- all of which Brunei's govt is NOT looking to attract.
Your original claim was that there is no demand for low-cost flights to Brunei, but now you're explaining why there is no supply allowed for low-cost flights to Brunei. Those are completely separate things.
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Old September 14th, 2010, 01:32 PM   #1247
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Your original claim was that there is no demand for flights to Brunei, but now you're explaining why there is no supply for flights to Brunei. Those are completely separate things.
Its two-way and I realize I should have edited those two posts into one. But anyway, now you have a clearer picture of why there aren't any flights.
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Old September 15th, 2010, 08:30 AM   #1248
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Air Asia X will be flying to Haneda from Kuala Lumpur.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story...5&sec=business

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PETALING JAYA: AirAsia X will begin flights to Haneda airport in Tokyo on Dec 9 and open ticket sales for the sector next week.

The airline plans to mount three weekly flights and it will be the first foreign low-cost carrier serving the airport that is expected to open for international flights in late October.

Asashi newspaper in Japan reported that AirAsia X was expected to price fares far lower than those charged for existing services between the capitals of Japan and Malaysia offered by Japan Airlines and Malaysia Airlines (MAS).
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Old September 16th, 2010, 05:20 AM   #1249
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Dont think they will be flying to Sydney for a while now. Where next now?
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Old September 17th, 2010, 05:26 AM   #1250
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Dont think they will be flying to Sydney for a while now. Where next now?
Adelaide anyone?

I'm guessing more China, Osaka-Kansai and maybe Turkey. With the A350s not due in by 2016, I wonder if one-stop Europe will be profitable, particularly since you have carriers like EK which offers more choice and frequency.
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Old September 18th, 2010, 07:32 AM   #1251
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Adelaide anyone?

I'm guessing more China, Osaka-Kansai and maybe Turkey. With the A350s not due in by 2016, I wonder if one-stop Europe will be profitable, particularly since you have carriers like EK which offers more choice and frequency.
Adelaide mabye 3 or 4 weekly, yet the high density seating might be a bit of overkill. Pretty weak and low yielded market, but it will be that and Sydney or Sydney/Cairns.

What happened to Darwin-Bali? There is also a rumour of a FOURTH daily PER-DPS coming
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Old September 18th, 2010, 11:45 AM   #1252
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Bali - Darwin, Air Asia still not selling tickets yet. I wonder why

Yeap, the PER-DPS seems very lucrative for Air Asia. Even with Batavia air is joining the market now.

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Old September 21st, 2010, 10:34 AM   #1253
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Garuda went through a time when they coming back to Darwin, then not, and it went on (they did the same with Brisbane), then JQ dumped capacity and bought it back. Pretty much a lemon route, most routes out of Darwin are, horrible place.

That return timing sucks, but not bad for $60.

Kuala Lumpur to Tokyo (Haneda)
14:40/22:30
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Tokyo (Haneda) to Kuala Lumpur
23:45/06:30
D7 2653
Tuesday, Thursday, Sunday

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Old September 23rd, 2010, 10:02 AM   #1254
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So they confirm another Australian city. I dont know if the Sydney approval is expected in the next 6 months, but can the Malaysian government literally take as long as they like to make this decision before it becomes a legal matter? Otherwise JQ might return to the route, they did quite well load wise, I remember picking up quite a few $200 fares.

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Malaysian long-haul budget airline AirAsia X says it intends to introduce new routes to Australia and China and will enter the Japanese market in December by launching regular flights between Kuala Lumpur and Tokyo.

The carrier will fly to Tokyo Haneda three times a week.

AirAsia X's chief executive officer Azran Osman-Rani said: "Other airport in Japan? We remain very interested."

Azran also said he plans to introduce new routes to Australia and China, as well as new destinations in the Middle East and Europe.
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Old October 1st, 2010, 04:14 PM   #1255
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Just heard on the news that 15 of the 33 flights operated by Tiger Airways were cancelled today . Does anybody know the reason?
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Old October 1st, 2010, 05:12 PM   #1256
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Just heard on the news that 15 of the 33 flights operated by Tiger Airways were cancelled today . Does anybody know the reason?
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SINGAPORE : Budget carrier Tiger Airways cancelled nearly half of its flights out of Singapore on Friday due to technical faults with its aircraft.

Online flight status information provided by Changi Airport showed that 15 out of 33 flights scheduled to depart on Friday had been cancelled.

It is estimated that as many as 2,700 passengers may have been affected.

The cancellations affected flights to Kuala Lumpur, Penang, Jakarta, Phuket, Krabi, Bangkok, Perth, Chennai and Macau.

Responding to queries from Channel NewsAsia, the Singapore-based low cost carrier said two of its Airbus A320 aircraft have experienced technical issues over the past few weeks and were grounded for extended checks and maintenance.

The technical issues included faults with the electrical supply to the braking system of one aircraft, while the second aircraft experienced fuel tank contamination.


One of the aircraft had to be sent back to Airbus' headquarters in Toulouse, France.

The carrier said this has caused significant disruption to its flight programme, which have resulted in the rescheduling and cancellation of flights.

Tiger Airways has a total of 19 Airbus A320 aircraft in its fleet. Ten are operated from Singapore, and the remaining nine from Australia.

A Tiger spokesperson said passengers have been offered various alternative options such as refunds and alternative flights.

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Old October 2nd, 2010, 03:50 AM   #1257
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The technical issues included faults with the electrical supply to the braking system of one aircraft, while the second aircraft experienced fuel tank contamination.
Channel News Asia is as dumb as the rest, believes what ever comes out of Tiger HQ. Its not even funny anymore. There was no fuel tank contamination!

Currently on the brink of 65% of pilots that have left over the last 4 months. They barely have enough crew to man half the fleet even though everyone is at max hours. Sure 9V-TAN is in Toulouse getting brake work, but they could have 50 A320s arrive on their doorstep tomorrow and nothing will change. Hello Australian expansion over the next 6 months! 3 frames are due within the next 3 weeks, all set to be parked at Singapore, alot will head to Melbourne this summer if the shortage is not resolved.

The pay cut has been scrapped and they are all on normal contracts again, too little to late. Plenty of jobs up in Hong Kong, and thats what Tiger has, plenty of experienced crew that can get jobs faster than the rest.

Wouldn't expect too much profit coming out of this quarter. Its only going to get worse, a whole lot will be heading to the Sandpit soon after EK's roadshow in Singas.
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 06:52 AM   #1258
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another article from the straits times:

From the Straits Times Singapore:http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_585862.html

Uproar at Budget Terminal
By Rachel Scully, Multimedia Journalist

PLANS for a weekend getaway were ruined when passengers learnt that their flights had been cancelled.

For two consecutive days, Tiger Airways cancelled several flights to Perth, Penang, Phuket and Bangkok without explanation.

Hundreds of disgruntled passengers were left stranded at the Budget Terminal while waiting for the airline to provide them with more information. Unfortunately, Tiger's service standards failed to impress.

Passengers were made to wait in line for their turn before counter-staff would address their concerns and compensation issues. To make matters worse, some of these passengers had encountered the same problem the day before.

In a written response to RazorTV, a spokesperson from Tiger Airways said that the airline recently had two aircraft with technical issues that were grounded for extended checks & maintenance over the past few weeks. As a result, Tiger Airways had to reschedule or cancel flights in a way that minimised overall disruption.

However, many passengers did not buy the explanation, claiming they heard otherwise from ground staff. RazorTV captured the action and sentiment at the Budget Terminal.
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 05:27 PM   #1259
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Sad day for Tiger.

I don't think Singaporeans are going to take this too lightly. They'll speak with their money and flock to the more 'reliable' Jetstar and AirAsia, both of whom I'm quite sure, are all too happy about the situation.
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 06:22 PM   #1260
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They arent taking it lightly. Watch this video:http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_585862.html
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