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Old February 19th, 2007, 07:36 PM   #21
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Old February 19th, 2007, 07:37 PM   #22
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Old February 19th, 2007, 07:38 PM   #23
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No, we don't have any such buildings.
Pseudo-modernist commieblocks are something completely different.
Well,thats not what I see when I look at Warsaw pictures.The city has a lot of cold post war buildings,like any other city rebuilt after WWII.

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Old February 19th, 2007, 07:56 PM   #24
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I don't like it but think that lot of will depend on materials used by investor, builder.
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Old February 19th, 2007, 08:05 PM   #25
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Well,thats not what I see when I look at Warsaw pictures.The city has a lot of cold post war buildings,like any other city rebuilt after WWII.

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I totaly agree with you. Warsaw is a city of commieblocks and skyscrapers. That's why , it wants sth much more and more spectacular that this minimalistic, cold project . This is not a new icon for Warsaw ,only another one depressing building, ...like always
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Old February 19th, 2007, 08:34 PM   #26
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Old February 19th, 2007, 08:53 PM   #27
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Tentatively dissappointed. I was hoping for something deconstructivist or expressive to breathe some life into Warsaw's overwhelming rectilinearity. Still, given the chaotic amoprhous context, it does provide a datum that will give the city centre a sense of order that respects the street edge and defines spaces ....and I like the transparency at ground level.

As Mies said God is in the details. So, hopefully this concept will evolve and the architect will provide materials and detailing to animate this complex.
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Old February 19th, 2007, 08:56 PM   #28
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everybody seems to be capable to judge a project without having seen the drawings.

a lot of people judge architecture only after seeing pictures, this is very sad. the visualisations of the first prize only illustrate a concept: to understand a project like you need models and drawings. architecture has nothing to d with nice designed visualisations...
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Old February 19th, 2007, 09:20 PM   #29
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^What drawwing are u talking about, the blueprints? Sorry but the renderings and visuals usually look better than the finished product, one a mojority of buildings, hopefully for the architect that wont be the case.
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Old February 19th, 2007, 09:30 PM   #30
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very sad that people judge architecture only after having a look at conceptual visualisations: I would wait and take a look at the panels and the model.

The architecture of Kerez is very subtile and difficult to understand only through visualisations.

For my part, I like the winning project and I have big respect for the work of Kerez.
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Old February 19th, 2007, 10:19 PM   #31
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i think this one would have been one of the best options, it has so many different colors and a unique geometry and u can see in the background what type of environment it has to overpower with its design
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Old February 19th, 2007, 10:22 PM   #32
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It would be outdated in 10 years
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Old February 19th, 2007, 10:25 PM   #33
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I agree that the winer is at least dissapointing..but don't u think that in the city lika Warsaw, in tghe place like this, something like Ghery's Gugenheim would be even worse ???
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Old February 19th, 2007, 10:33 PM   #34
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i think this one would have been one of the best options, it has so many different colors and a unique geometry and u can see in the background what type of environment it has to overpower with its design
i agree that this design is very interesting: a design like this is funny for a short amount of time, but imagine how you would feel looking at this building in 20 years... architecture has to be conceived for years and a museum has nothing to do with a fashion show...
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Old February 19th, 2007, 10:52 PM   #35
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It would be outdated in 10 years
The one that won is already outdated
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Old February 19th, 2007, 11:02 PM   #36
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Well,thats not what I see when I look at Warsaw pictures.The city has a lot of cold post war buildings,like any other city rebuilt after WWII.

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Name one miminimalist building in Warsaw and i'll buy you a beer.
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Old February 19th, 2007, 11:17 PM   #37
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What a bad day for Warsaw....it´s so ugly that it really makes me angry!! How could the jury pic such a projekt?? I am very disappointed by Libeskind...Did he say something like "it´s great for Warsaw", didn´t he? He smoked too much...
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Old February 20th, 2007, 01:27 AM   #38
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Name one miminimalist building in Warsaw and i'll buy you a beer.
It's you who are talking about Minimalist buildings or whatever.I just said there are some cold post WWII in Warsaw.The picture to show you that wasn't very hard to find:



I want the beer
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Old February 20th, 2007, 02:58 AM   #39
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It's you who are talking about Minimalist buildings or whatever.I just said there are some cold post WWII in Warsaw.The picture to show you that wasn't very hard to find:

I want the beer
I'll drink it myself.
You confuse minimalism with failed attempts at functionalism.
There's no single mininimalist building in Warsaw - commercial, residential, governmental or any other. (and thats why i asked the question).
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i just saw Libeskiend's Museum in Denver..and GOD...thank GOD he didn't start in MOMA competition....
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