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Old February 17th, 2013, 06:35 PM   #1981
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And as a consequence they will remove the junctions and free-flow sliproads and put a roundabout there instead. I simply cannot believe the idiot who thought this was a good idea. They would save a lot of money on just removing the toll booths and repave the road.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 03:34 AM   #1982
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Traffic going Trondheim - Molde had to cross the lane going Molde - Kristiansund. Not exactly a safe solution. Not optimal to merge with traffic coming from the tunnel without a merging lane either.

A roundabout is then a better solution.

The optimal solution would of course have been to rebuild so we get free flow for those who comes from Trondheim as well. But that would have been to expensive.

In my opinion that doesn't matter to much. The future E39 should go across Frei. With bridges between Tingvoll and Frei, and Frei and Avery. And hence less money used here is less money wasted.

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Old February 20th, 2013, 11:43 AM   #1983
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E6 Mjsa bridge

Vegvesen abandoned the idea of a kilometerlong wooden bridge for a traditional steel and concrete. It also appears they will replace the planned round-about with a decent junction, but also demolish the existing bridge so local traffic will have to use the new one. So i guess this means the new road will have yellow signs. Construction is expected to start in 2018.

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Old February 20th, 2013, 06:01 PM   #1984
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I keep seeing news articles lately about Norwegian tunnels not meeting European Union safety standards. More specifically, many older tunnels don't meet them but new tunnels do? Even more specifically, the new freeway/motorway that is being planned between Bergen and Oss don't under current plans, meet those safety requirements.

Does this mean that older Norwegian tunnels are inherently unsafe, or EU requirements too strict? And if they are unsafe, why did Norway build them that way in the first place?

Another thing. I keep seeing and reading about all these new road projects scheduled all over Norway, but are there projects being planned that redo older tunnels that bring the width and the lighting to current 2013 standards, or Norwegians just ok with those older leaking tunnels that are hard to see in when driving through. As I've said before on this forum, I REALLY DON'T get the thinking and logic behind infrastructure planning in this country.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 06:11 PM   #1985
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Norway would have to spend tens of billions of NOK to upgrade tunnels to the 2004/54/EG directive.

For example, Norwegian tunnels have very low traffic volumes, so installing expensive equipment on the level of Alpine tunnels is just not economically justifyable. The directive includes all tunnels over 500 m which are part of the trans-European network (not necessarily E-roads). It requires escape tunnels, no grades over 5%, emergency vehicle access from another tube every 1.5 km, etc.

The EU is sometimes a nanny state where risks are to be avoided at all cost. I'm glad to see Norway uses the more pragmatic approach. Many tunnels have only a couple of thousand vehicles per day at best. This also reflects the tunnel construction cost and construction time, both of which are substantially lower in Norway than in Switzerland or Austria.

The directive says nothing about the leakage some tunnels in Norway have, leading to excessive condensation on the windshield.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 08:26 PM   #1986
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As I've said before on this forum, I REALLY DON'T get the thinking and logic behind infrastructure planning in this country.
You seem to assume that we have plans. That's your first mistake.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 08:32 PM   #1987
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Is there any nationwide planning or are projects just planned and financed on a case-by-case basis? The E39 ferry-free vision appears to be somewhat organized.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 09:09 PM   #1988
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Yes, we have what we call national transport plans which is supposed to say what gets prioritized.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Transport_Plan
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Old February 20th, 2013, 11:10 PM   #1989
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Yes, we have what we call national transport plans which is supposed to say what gets prioritized.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Transport_Plan
Yes, of course, but is that plan followed by the politicians?

After transferring the ownership of most of the national road network to the regional level, I guess the local politicians might have more power to influence to the plans than earlier.
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Old February 27th, 2013, 12:29 PM   #1990
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Rv 13 Ryfast

Blasting for the Ryfast connection began this week.



The Ryfast is a 20 kilometer connection near Stavanger. The main tunnel is 14300 meters long and will set the following records;

* deepest undersea tunnel in the world (-290 m)
* longest undersea tunnel in the world (14300 m)
* longest twin-tube road tunnel in Europe between 2018 and 2021
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Old March 1st, 2013, 02:54 PM   #1991
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Rv 7 Hardanger Bridge

The Hardanger Bridge will open in August, 2 months later than originally planned. It was considered not safe to execute works while the bridge is already carrying traffic.

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Old March 15th, 2013, 01:14 AM   #1992
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Construction of E6 trough Oppdal starts this year, 3 round-abouts and 50km/h limit to make sure the new road is a terribly outdated from the start:

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Old March 16th, 2013, 02:38 AM   #1994
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Yeah, a disgrace, decades of planning and this is the result. Lets get a new team on the bridge in September....
http://www.dn.no/forsiden/politikkSa...cle2576233.ece
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Old March 16th, 2013, 08:11 PM   #1995
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Construction of E6 trough Oppdal starts this year, 3 round-abouts and 50km/h limit to make sure the new road is a terribly outdated from the start:

Why don't they at least move it so it don't go through the town?
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Why don't they at least move it so it don't go through the town?
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Farmer's party politics on it's best. That's what you get for letting them rule Ministry of Transportation for freaking 8 years!!
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E39 Sognefjord Bridge / Tunnel

Great English-language video representing the options to span the 3.7 kilometer wide Sognefjord.

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Old April 16th, 2013, 06:28 PM   #1999
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Farmer's party politics on it's best. That's what you get for letting them rule Ministry of Transportation for freaking 8 years!!
Hope we had them back in Finland there. No we have Left, which means no motorways or nothing for cars nearly at allo.
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E39 Rogfast / Boknafjord Tunnel

A new video of the E39 Rogfast project, which consists of the 25.5 kilometer twin-tube, four-lane undersea tunnel at -385 m and a 4 km underground spur to a small island. Construction will likely commence in 2015.

The project will break 4 world records;

* longest subsea road tunnel
* deepest undersea tunnel
* longest twin-tube road tunnel
* longest overall road tunnel

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