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Old December 11th, 2013, 04:52 PM   #2401
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Ryfast

Statens Vegvesen does an excellent job informing both domestic and international users of major projects.

This is an English-language video of the Ryfast project in Stavanger. This includes the world's longest submarine tunnel when completed in 2019.

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Old December 11th, 2013, 07:50 PM   #2402
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This includes the world's longest submarine tunnel when completed in 2019.
Guessing you mean under-sea road tunnel: 'under-sea', as the posh latin phrase 'submarine' suggests the mode of transport (eg a tunnel to let submarines into a secret underground base in some cliffs) and 'road' as the Channel Tunnel and Seikan Tunnel are rather long rail ones - I'd be surprised if anyone lets someone drive for 40km straight in a tunnel!
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Old December 14th, 2013, 01:36 PM   #2403
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The new government wants a 5 km long floating bridge across Bjørnafjorden between Bergen and Stavanger. Pricetag is supposed to be 19 billion NOK. Which will make it by far the most expensive road project in Norway.

– Regjeringa har bestemt seg for gigantbru

In short we get the red route instead of the proposed yellow route.
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Old December 14th, 2013, 01:46 PM   #2404
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That is excellent. I was hoping they were going for innovative bridge solutions.
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Old December 14th, 2013, 01:51 PM   #2405
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Also, Dalsfjord Bridge opens to traffic today. The forecasted AADT is 750 vehicles per day.

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Old December 14th, 2013, 02:16 PM   #2406
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That is excellent. I was hoping they were going for innovative bridge solutions.
Hopefully they use this opportunity and look 50-80 years into the future. And don't let this proposal get away.

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Old December 14th, 2013, 02:51 PM   #2407
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19+ billion NOK (2.25 billion €) is a significant chunk of money, 3800 NOK/450€+ for every inhabitant in Norway. At least this project (unlike Sognefjorden) is between two major cities and can be expected to be in heavy use, for Norway, and a world first (floating bridge/submerged tunnel).

As there are many future crossings, especially in Asia, that might use such technology, a prototype in Norway could come handy.

Yes, this would be a natural opportunity for a rail link Bergen-Stavanger, but it is unlikely to be taken. It would add more billions to the price tag of the bridge, and this would be both the first floating road bridge and floating rail bridge, and I kind of doubt that a train could move at significant speed across a floating bridge (another first).
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Old December 14th, 2013, 08:06 PM   #2408
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Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your post, but there are plenty of floating bridges around, so that wouldn't be a first. In Norway, there's Nordhordland bridge:


Source: http://www.nordhordland.no

Here's a US example:

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Old December 14th, 2013, 11:17 PM   #2409
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Yes, this would be a natural opportunity for a rail link Bergen-Stavanger, but it is unlikely to be taken. It would add more billions to the price tag of the bridge, and this would be both the first floating road bridge and floating rail bridge, and I kind of doubt that a train could move at significant speed across a floating bridge (another first).
According to the company behind the video above, the extra cost of a railway bridge is about 10 %. That's for the bridge in itself though.

Also note that 19 billions is for the whole stretch Jektevik - Os. And not just the floating bridge,

My point is still this. Even tough it's highly unlikely with a raillink between Bergen and Stavanger the next 20 years. We should not go for solutions that rule out a such link in the future. The type of bridges we build should open up for a combined road and railway bridge. Even though the railway might be 50 years in the future.
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Old December 15th, 2013, 02:55 AM   #2410
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Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your post, but there are plenty of floating bridges around, so that wouldn't be a first.
My bad, I wasn't thinking when I wrote that post. There are no submerged transport tunnels, but there would be non-permanent floating bridges at least as far back as WWII, and I have a vague recollection of temporary bridges made on top of ships back into ancient times. I wasn't aware of permanent floating bridges though.

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My point is still this. Even tough it's highly unlikely with a raillink between Bergen and Stavanger the next 20 years. We should not go for solutions that rule out a such link in the future. The type of bridges we build should open up for a combined road and railway bridge. Even though the railway might be 50 years in the future.
I agree with that. The planners would be amiss if they didn't include this as one of the alternatives to be evaluated, for the bridge and the link itself. This seems to be a brand new motorway parts of the distance, reserving space for rail in the middle should not be that expensive. Worst case the rail part of the bridge and motorway could be converted into more lanes when extra capacity would be needed and no rail link is forthcoming.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 06:53 PM   #2411
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Some photos of the E16-E39 intersection:









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Old December 18th, 2013, 03:16 PM   #2412
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When will the Oslofjord Tunnel become toll free? I believe it was originally planned for 2013.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 03:22 PM   #2413
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It was proposed earlier this year to extend the time with three new years. There have been some controversy surrounding that proposal so I don't know if it have been altered.
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And they might be building a paralell tunnel, perhaps saving up some money for that? I hope they build a motorway bridge instead, connecting E 18 and E 6. Regular traffic can use the tunnel.
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Old December 19th, 2013, 10:01 PM   #2415
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It will be downplayed in 2028 according to current plans (2nd tube and widening of Akershus part), the current Rv23 was downpayed this august. Most likely there will also be widening to motorway standard on the remaining parts in Buskerud financed by it's own toll-points. If a bridge solution is chosen in this corridor, the current tunnel will be closed to save maintenance cost.

In other news, an upgraded intersection on E39 near Haugesund:

http://www.tu.no/vareveger/nyheter/2...sort-er-ferdig
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Old December 20th, 2013, 07:32 PM   #2416
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E6 Alta

Kåfjord Bridge opens to traffic today. The planned toll collection is scrapped.

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The adjoining Sáhkkobátni Tunnel also opens (1.208 m)
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Old December 20th, 2013, 07:37 PM   #2417
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E16 Vossevangen

The Vangs Tunnel opens to traffic today. It's the bypass of Vossevangen. The tunnel is 2469 m long and single tube. It has a T10.5 profile (diameter). Construction cost was 720 million NOK / € 85 million (including adjoining road infrastructure).

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Old January 2nd, 2014, 08:25 AM   #2418
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Narrow bridge on E6 in Nord-Trøndelag. Only in Norway

Edit: Apparently a new bridge has been built to replace this one, which opened 19th of December. Read about it here





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Old January 2nd, 2014, 04:05 PM   #2419
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2013 traffic fatalities

2013 recorded a substantial increase in traffic fatalities in Norway. According to preliminary figures, 190 people were killed on Norwegian roads, up 45 from 2012. Especially the second half of 2013 recorded more fatalities. 40% of the fatalities did not wear a seat belt.
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The Roads Administration have narrowed down three possible fixed crossings of the Oslo Fjord which will be evaluated in more detail (though 12 other alternatives have not been completely ruled out yet). The three contenders are (1) bridge from Rødtangen (Hurum) to south of Holmestrand (2) tunnel from south of Moss to south of Horten, or (3) bridge in the same location as (2).

I don't quite understand the first alternative, as it doesn't actually cross the Oslo Fjord.


http://www.moss-avis.no/nyheter/diss...g-ut-1.8221895

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