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Old March 24th, 2014, 11:19 PM   #2501
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Nope: NRK har ikke rettigheter til å vise dette programmet utenfor Norge
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Old March 25th, 2014, 12:43 AM   #2502
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Driving into the under construction Toven Tunnel. At 10.665 meters, it will be the 8th longest road tunnel in Europe when it opens in late 2014.

Wish our Provincial Govt. here wasn't so damned cheap. Tunnels like this would solve a LOT of problems.

Wish I was in Norway so I could drive through it when it's completed.
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Old March 25th, 2014, 01:38 PM   #2503
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It seems quite narrow. Is it an effect due to camera shot?
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Old March 25th, 2014, 04:27 PM   #2504
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It has a T8.5 profile. This is fairly wide (sufficient to allow 80 km/h two-way traffic).

The construction cost is fairly low for an almost 11 kilometer long tunnel, only 600 million NOK / € 80 million.
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Old March 26th, 2014, 06:02 PM   #2505
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The Troms County council has approved two undersea tunnels, with a combined cost of 1.5 billion NOK, or circa € 180 million.

* Langsundforbindelsen, including a 2900 m undersea tunnel
* Bjarkøyforbindelsen, including a 3150 m undersea tunnel

Both tunnels are unrelated, they are approximately 150 kilometers apart, as the crow flies (370 kilometers by road).

Langsundforbindelsen will connect the island of Reinøya (pop. 300) with the island of Ringvassøya and the Norwegian road network. They will also construct a new ferry towards Vannøya. Existing Fv. 301 will be renumbered to Fv. 863 once the project is completed. All in all it involves 18 km of new or improved roadway.





Bjarkøyforbindelsen connects the island of Grytøya (pop. 450) with the island of Bjarkøy (pop. 350). A sub project appears to be a bridge to the island of Sandsøya (pop. 100)

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Old March 27th, 2014, 06:16 AM   #2506
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Wish our Provincial Govt. here wasn't so damned cheap. Tunnels like this would solve a LOT of problems.

Wish I was in Norway so I could drive through it when it's completed.
Norway has a lot of oil money to spend, Canada not so much. these projects in Norway also often turn a 5 hour drive into a 15 minute drive, while upgrading a lot of BC roads would turn a 3 hour drive into maybe a 2 hour drive.
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Old March 27th, 2014, 03:04 PM   #2507
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New E 18/E 39 through central Kristiansand (Gartnerløkka–Breimyr)

This is Statens vegvesen's preferred proposal for the construction of a new 4-lane road continuing from the project finished in 2004 (Bjørndalssletta-Gartnerløkka):


Only three proposals were examined, the difference is only on what level (over or under) the road crosses the two junctions.

There has been lots of other proposals, all from dualling the current high-rise bridge from the 80's, to extending the current tunnel. Both of these proposals were discarded. No-one wanted the bridges (blocks the view), and the tunnel would be too long, with lots of junctions (more than Operatunnelen). Safety there.

This project will also close the recently rebuilt Hannevik tunnel. Money well spent.

Details, in Norwegian:
Brochure: http://www.vegvesen.no/_attachment/604119/binary/952215
Project site: http://www.vegvesen.no/Europaveg/e39gartnerlokkabreimyr

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Old March 27th, 2014, 04:38 PM   #2508
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It has a T8.5 profile. This is fairly wide (sufficient to allow 80 km/h two-way traffic).

The construction cost is fairly low for an almost 11 kilometer long tunnel, only 600 million NOK / € 80 million.
how is that even possible?

What is also done on safety, since tunnel is so long?
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Old March 27th, 2014, 05:01 PM   #2509
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Norway has favorable terrain for constructing tunnels, with mostly solid rock or granite soils, which allows the cost-effective blasting method.

I've read that Norwegian tunnels have to comply with EU directives by 2019 so I don't think they save a whole lot on safety equipment, compared to Alpine tunnels.
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Old March 27th, 2014, 08:26 PM   #2510
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A linguistic question; what is the difference between veg and vei / vegen or veier?
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Old March 27th, 2014, 09:04 PM   #2511
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A linguistic question; what is the difference between veg and vei / vegen or veier?
Veg and vei are the same word, but in different spelling (see: nynorsk and bokmål). Vegen is veg in definite form (aka the veg). Veier is vei in plural.
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Old March 27th, 2014, 09:47 PM   #2512
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Thanks. So vegen and veien is basically the same? And is Statens Vegvesen Nynorsk?
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Old March 27th, 2014, 10:09 PM   #2513
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Yes, vegen and veien is the same word. Statens vegvesen is a name, and it is not correct to conjugate or change names in the Norwegian language. If someone writes Statens veivesen, it is grammatically wrong. They probably do it because they say vei in their dialect, and forget the correct spelling of the name.

Btw, veiene and vegane are vei/veg in plural, definite form.
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Old March 27th, 2014, 10:11 PM   #2514
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these projects in Norway also often turn a 5 hour drive into a 15 minute drive, while upgrading a lot of BC roads would turn a 3 hour drive into maybe a 2 hour drive.
That makes no sense at all.

The project on Fv78 will reduce estimated travel time Mosjøen - Sandnessjøen by 12 minutes and Sandnessjøen - Mo i rana by 34 minutes.
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Old March 28th, 2014, 02:43 AM   #2515
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^I'm not talking about this project necessarily, but a lot of these tunnel projects take a huge chuck off of travel time for a project that is only a few km. You would have to rebuild a hundred KM to shave off the amount of time this singular tunnel takes off in BC. For example the TC between Banff and Kamloops takes roughly 5.5 hours to drive today, while if you twinned the entire 400+km distance you would only cut that down to ~4 hours. BCs routes aren't horribly out of the way, they are built to more of a middle standard in terms of mountain roads.

Sorry for derailing this thread.
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Old March 28th, 2014, 11:38 AM   #2516
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Thanks. So vegen and veien is basically the same? And is Statens Vegvesen Nynorsk?
Veg is correct in both Bokmål and Nynorsk, vei being an alternate spelling in Bokmål. Statens Vegvesen seem to have standardized on veg, but you'll still see vei being used, depending on the local dialect. People will still pronounce it according to their dialect; the difference between g and i is pretty much the same as that in this picture.

Edit: The softening of the g sound is something that happened in relatively modern times. Old Norse would've used g exclusively.
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Old March 28th, 2014, 11:46 AM   #2517
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So Swedish is just "East Norwegian"?
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So Swedish is just "East Norwegian"?
Well, East Scandinavian.. The difference between Scandinavian "languages" isn't very clear. Much like Serbo-Croatian, I think.
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So Swedish is just "East Norwegian"?
In the Middle Ages, Scandinavian languages were divided between West Norse (spoken in Norway, Iceland, Faroe Islands, etc.) and East Norse (spoken in Denmark, Sweden). This has changed, and today it makes more sense to draw the line between Continental Scandinavian (Norwegian, Swedish and Danish) and Insular Scandinavian (Faroese and Icelandic). Norwegian still have a lot of West Norse features, but are mutually intelligible with Swedish and Danish. While Icelandic and Faroese have evolved very little, modern-day Norwegian is very different from old Norwegian.

I'd rather say that Østlandsk (East Norwegian) is "demi-Swedish", while other parts of Norway still holds on to a lot of the features of the West Norse language family.
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Old March 28th, 2014, 04:30 PM   #2520
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Fv. 60 Streke Tunnel

Spectacular 360-degree photos of the construction site of Streketunnelen.

http://www.360moods.no/streketunnel/

The project was completed in 2013. It's located right next to the world-famous Geirangerfjord.
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